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    Anybody have a subscription to ProFootballfocus? The reason I ask is because I remember reading a post from someone saying that the Dolphins ran the ball somewhere around 65% of the time in the red zone. I have also read that same stat when people talk about how many more TD's Tanny could have thrown if Sherman would have loosened the reigns a bit and called more pass plays in the red zone.

    The reason I'm asking is this. If it can be used for an reason/excuse as to why Tanny didn't throw more TD's why can't it be used as a reason/excuse as to why Hartline and Bess didn't catch more TD passes? To look even deeper for the answer one would have to also look at every pass play called in the red zone and see if a player was open but the ball just went somewhere else, to someone who was either open quicker or someone who was a higher option in the plays progression. Just a hunch, but I'm guessing many times we would see the #1 option as the TE. Until you can answer these questions I don't think you can say either way Hartline and Bess weren't play makers, because in between the 20's, quite often those two WR's were 1st down machines.
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    play·mak·er [pley-mey-ker]
    noun Sports.
    1. An offensive player, as in basketball,football or ice hockey, who executes plays designed to put one or more teammates in a position to score.

    The dictionary needs to be corrected and put "must score"
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    I think we need to define what we believe a "Play Maker" to be. For me, it's a player who changes the game by making plays on a regular basis. Ya know the ones, the highlights that get team mates and Phans excited.

    On D, it's a Wake nailing a QB, a forced fumble, an INT, a bone crushing tackle or, a great break up on a pass in Crunch Time.

    On O, it's a QB making a great throw when it matters, a run for a huge first down, an electric run or catch. You get my idea of what it is.

    I should have included Thigpen, and maybe Bush.

    On Hartline, I have liked him since he got here, and is a VG WR. Taking away his big game is silly. He has averaged 15 yards a cath for 4 years, with 4 QB's and 3 OC's. He did that with many throws and not many throws. Gimme a break. Hover, he is not a play maker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phindog View Post
    play·mak·er [pley-mey-ker]
    noun Sports.
    1. An offensive player, as in basketball,football or ice hockey, who executes plays designed to put one or more teammates in a position to score.

    The dictionary needs to be corrected and put "must score"
    It appears that Daniel Webster was not a football fan. lol
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    This conversation reminds me of Jerry and George on Seinfeld arguing over which hot dog tastes the best.

    The go to hot dog or the go out and eat type hot dog. Maybe the Monday hot dog vs the Weds. night hot dog.

    How about the baseball hot dog vs the football hot dog?

    I can't decide. Lets call Kramer.
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    Kramer would know the answer for sure.Dude's a mad scientist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Calebra View Post
    This conversation reminds me of Jerry and George on Seinfeld arguing over which hot dog tastes the best.

    The go to hot dog or the go out and eat type hot dog. Maybe the Monday hot dog vs the Weds. night hot dog.

    How about the baseball hot dog vs the football hot dog?

    I can't decide. Lets call Kramer.
    The best one's are those grilled, and sometime burnt to a degree (player), a great bun (team fit), chile (surrounding players), and toppings like cheese, onions, etc (coaching). Makes for a great dog, and a play maker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 72 silky View Post
    Like I said about hartline, bess is a solid player but a playmaker he's not. You don't trade away playmakers that are also good off the field to Cleveland for nothing. Wallace is a legit playmaker,
    Brandon Marshall was a playmaker not hartline or bess
    Exactly, YAC
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    So how did anyone even dare watch last years team with no play makers?

    Must of been the cheerleaders..
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