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Thread: North Carolina fights Sharia law by trying to ban abortions

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    North Carolina fights Sharia law by trying to ban abortions

    The North Carolina state Senate quickly voted Wednesday to pass a package of anti-abortion amendments attached to a bill that would ban Sharia law, despite Republican Gov. Pat McCrory's concern that the Senate had unfairly rushed the amendments on Tuesday night.

    "When the Democrats were in power, this is the way they did business," McCrory said in a statement on House Bill 695. "It was not right then and it is not right now. Regardless of what party is in charge or what important issue is being discussed, the process must be appropriate and thorough."

    On Tuesday night, Republican state senators had quietly attached a number of severe abortion restrictions to a bill that would ban the recognition of Sharia law in North Carolina family courts. The amendments would prevent state health insurance exchanges under the Affordable Care Act from offering policies that cover abortion, restrict doctors' ability to administer abortion-inducing medication, and impose new regulations on abortion clinics that opponents say would shut down all but one clinic in the state.

    "We canít allow an assembly-line procedure that lets doctors run down the hall as they administer death," state Sen. Ralph Hise (R) said during the debate.

    A few hours after hearing the bill in committee, Republicans in the North Carolina Senate voted to waive their rules and bring the bill to the floor for a vote. The Raleigh-based News & Observer reported that while several anti-abortion advocates were present for the vote Tuesday night, no reproductive rights advocates were there because they had not been alerted that the amendments were being considered.

    "It seems to me that they're trying to pass under cover of darkness legislation that would not otherwise be passed," said Suzanne Buckley, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice North Carolina. "They're trying to pull a Texas."


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    Attaching pro-Sharia amendments to an anti-Sharia law. Interesting. Oh, wait, it's probably in the name of a different god, so that makes it different. Theoc...I mean Republicans sure are working hard to not change at all. What's funny is that if they just changed the name of the god, they'd be all about Sharia Law.





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    The fear over Sharia law thing is such crap. All Muslims want to do is be able to -- in certain instances, if both parties wish it -- settle disputes among each other according to Muslim law. Like, you're a Muslim, and you get into a car accident with another Muslim. Instead of heading to small claims court there might be a traditionally Muslim way of settling the matter. What these anti-Sharia law bills try to do is legally prohibit that kind of negotiating from taking the place of the American justice system. Ever.

    What makes it even more obvious anti-Muslim bashing is that there is legal precedent for allowing this kind of thing among orthodox Jews. The courts have upheld it. Because it's perfectly reasonable.
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    Attaching pro-Sharia amendments to an anti-Sharia law. Interesting. Oh, wait, it's probably in the name of a different god, so that makes it different. Theoc...I mean Republicans sure are working hard to not change at all. What's funny is that if they just changed the name of the god, they'd be all about Sharia Law.
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    North Carolina fights Sharia law by trying to ban abortions

    It's similar to an arbitration clause in a contract, or a clause selecting the substantive law by which it will be governed. Consenting adults can contract to settle their disputes according to religious law if they so desire. Freedom of contract is guaranteed in the Constitution.

    The problem here is pandering to ignorance combined with fear of outsiders taking over. These good public office holders of North Carolina, who don't even begin to represent the folks who go to school in places like Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Davidson and Winston-Salem, are angling for the vote of those who picture the Baghdad of the Piedmont: Masses of men in turbans and women in black burkhas crowding the streets of Asheville as far as the eye can see, jabbering in incomprehensible Arabic, building mosques with minarets taller than steeples, taking over business spaces and living their entire lives according to Muslim customs, law and culture, to the exclusion of anything American. They are, as they see it, conserving their way of life from invasion by furriners who not only ain't white as they should be, but ain't even good church-goin' Christians, let alone Protestants as they should be.

    What they're not taking into account is that the vast majority of Muslim Americans come here to be Americans, and that if the first or maybe second generation is going to hold onto some aspects of what is familiar to them, the grandchildren are going to be indistinguishable from Uncle Clem up the road a piece except for the church they go to. But that's the power of selling hate: it makes the buyer stupid and blind. Well, better stupid than damnkankee nonsense, I guess.
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    The attachment of "add on" amendments to singular bills should be banned in a constitutional amendment. One bill - one vote.
    That practice has been going on for years and it is something that has contributed to the corruption in government.
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    If at first you don't succeed, ride in on a motorcycle.

    Conservative legislators in North Carolina trying to get a new restrictive abortion bill passed have done just that.

    House committee members refashioned a bill on motorcycle safety into one principally about abortion after the state's governor threatened on Wednesday to veto the anti-abortion measures.

    They were previously attached to a bill aimed at keeping foreign laws -- which included Islamic Sharia law -- out of state legal proceedings.

    Conservative legislators will submit the new bill for a vote to the state legislature Thursday, CNN affiliate WRAL reported.

    Uniting the proposed abortion legislation with a bill about motorcycle safety triggered derisive criticism on social media and spawned the Twitter hash tag #vaginamotorcycle.

    "Well, been riding around on my #vaginamotorcycle all night without a helmet," ‏@Duchwela3h posted.

    @aayers324 posted an illustration matching the view of a motorcycle from the front with female reproductive anatomy.

    She commented: "I can see how NC got confused on this one."
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/11/politi...ion/index.html

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