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Thread: We need to extend Ireland before it's too late!

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    Yes, thank you so much Ireland!!!
    Aw glad to see you support the idea, thanks mate

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    Could somebody please clarify to what extent Ireland is involved in who we pick / when and how they're played? I know there is a wide variety in levels of control around the league from GM to GM, I just wish I had a better understanding of how much control/influence Ireland has. Does anybody know specifically? Has there been a news article or other information about it in any detail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinFan1968 View Post
    Could somebody please clarify to what extent Ireland is involved in who we pick / when and how they're played? I know there is a wide variety in levels of control around the league from GM to GM, I just wish I had a better understanding of how much control/influence Ireland has. Does anybody know specifically? Has there been a news article or other information about it in any detail?
    Parcells was head of the football department from 2008-2010. Ireland gained full control from the 2011 offseason to now.

    Philbin is in control of who plays and how much they play.


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    Parcells was head of the football department from 2008-2010. Ireland gained full control from the 2011 offseason to now.
    Right. But how much influence/control does Philbin have? I find it hard to believe its as some would have you believe, that Ireland picks everybody and Philbin has to work with what he ends up with.

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    Seriously guys im getting nervous about this situation, I mean look what happened when the Colts let Shula get away, look how much impact that had on the history of our team. I really don't want to get a taste of our own medicine if we let Jeff get away. I hope Mr. Ross can tie Ireland down long term really soon, its the key thing this season imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinFan1968 View Post
    Right. But how much influence/control does Philbin have? I find it hard to believe its as some would have you believe, that Ireland picks everybody and Philbin has to work with what he ends up with.
    no, thats why Ireland has done a much better job lately. he wasnt under the constraints Parcells put him under

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinFan1968 View Post
    Could somebody please clarify to what extent Ireland is involved in who we pick / when and how they're played? I know there is a wide variety in levels of control around the league from GM to GM, I just wish I had a better understanding of how much control/influence Ireland has. Does anybody know specifically? Has there been a news article or other information about it in any detail?
    Near total, but he seems to have the philosophy of letting coaches coach. Although he was vetoed twice by Ross: when trying to trade for Kyle Orton and when trying to hire Mike McCoy as coach.

    The reason Jeff Fisher went to the Rams is because Ross wouldnt let anyone other then Ireland have a commanding role in the organization. Specifically, Fisher wanted a 3rd party to handle any disputes between Ireland and Fisher when it came to personnel moves. Ross wanted a "traditional" front office set up, GM over coach. Ironically Fisher was quite fond of Ireland and would have potentially hired Ireland if the situation had been different.
    As well, under Parcells, Ireland had a hand in every signing/draft pick/trade we engaged in. Ireland has admitted to signing off on some of our more controversial moves: Pat White, Long/Henne over Matt Ryan, etc. Ireland even stuck with those moves despite some objections from Parcells, who was done with Henne before the 2010 season but Ireland kept him another 2 seasons.

    Heres 2 threads on what Ireland has and has not done with this team:

    http://www.finheaven.com/show...dex&highlight=

    http://www.finheaven.com/show...l-2&highlight=
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    I am telling you, mark my words, Ireland is the next Pioli, if we don't lock him up we will regret it! We will be watching him hoist the Lombardi trophy that should have been ours.

    And that will suck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by finjim View Post
    I am telling you, mark my words, Ireland is the next Pioli, if we don't lock him up we will regret it! We will be watching him hoist the Lombardi trophy that should have been ours.

    And that will suck.


    Go to Chiefsplanet.com and see their opinion on Scott Pioli.

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