It's ok to say "I don't know".
NOW you REALLY need to leave the site.
Originally Posted by DisturbedShifty
In all seriousness, I consider the Abrams Trek movies fun, entertaining movies for the most part. I really consider them "Star Trek-ish" rather than actually Star Trek. They have the same characters in them but that's about it as far as resembling what Star Trek has been over the past 50 years.
Wrath of Khan did influence my thoughts on the movie quite a bit. Into Darkness gave him a sympathetic side that could have ruined the character. Fortunately Cumberbatch's acting, portraying him as the smartest guy in the room, saved the menacing side of the character. I thought the ending of the movie between Kirk and Spock with the element you outlined in your spolier tag made the ending almost insulting. The whole battle at the end was cool but the plot points insulted me as a Trek fan.