"Politics is the Art of Looking for Trouble, Finding it Everywhere, Diagnosing it Incorrectly, and Applying the Wrong Remedies"
Since they are being charged unjustly, a shame they didn't make it worth it by whipping the cops asses.
Were the cops wrong? Quite possibly. Profiling? Quite possibly. Was there assault on the police officer that started the scuffle? No doubt. I know that (as a corrections officer) we are encouraged to keep an arms length distance away at all times. If the they get closer than that, we are told to extend an arm and ask that they step back. It appears as if the officer was doing just that when the guy knocked his arm away.
Maybe it was racial profiling. I think what lead up to the confrontation could have been nothing more than bad communication. The cops claimed to have been looked at funny and heard some sort of comment outside. Maybe they misunderstood a look or misheard a comment. Next they walked in and addressed it. Maybe they did so because of that miscommunication. Next, we have the two guys believing they are being unjustly questioned because of the color of their skin. Maybe that wasn't the case because of the prior miscommunication outdoors. In that scenario, they would have become argumentative because of their own misinterpretation of the situation. The cops then could have seen this as a sign of aggression (and the cop thought the guy was getting too close). The cop extends his arm, and the irritated (and feeling somewhat cornered and helpless) man slaps his arm away. Struggle ensued.
Although it is technically assault, I think charges should be dropped (based on the way I think it happened). They should both discuss their viewpoint of the issue, and it should be done with. I believe everyone shared some responsibility for what happened in that altercation.
Why did the cop punch the other guy???
That cop was looking for a reason to attack. If defending yourself from a push is an assault then what is when the cop throws a haymaker at the other guy??
From the video in the parking lot you can tell the cops were intimidating these guys with their car. They saw 2 black guys driving car in the middle of the night and decided to mess with them for no reason. That's what started the whole thing to begin with.
I didn't notice that. I'll look again.
Just looked. The second guy was getting close too. I'm not justifying the punch on the second guy, but maybe the cop panicked and thought he was coming at him too. Did the guys need to yell at the cops? Again, I'm not saying that this definitely wasn't a racial profiling case. It could have been. I think there was a lot of fault there from both sides.
Also, what was said when they didn't subtitle? The cop asked him something or said something before asking him for ID, and they didn't play audio of it or subtitle it. Then he asked for the ID and they subtitle that, yet they don't subtitle the audio of the guys arguing back to the cops right after that.
Last edited by Scrap; 08-30-2013 at 08:46 AM.
Let's look at the video. At 1:49, the smaller brother is at the top of the screen. When the news report shows the video again, he is at the bottom of the screen. My point here is that we aren't being presented with everything, yet we are asked to judge the situation. We don't get to hear part of the audio, and the subtitles are only for certain parts of the video. Let's be fair, WE DON'T KNOW exactly what happened. We just know what we have been presented with, with what our eyes and ears think we see and hear. It could be kind of like what a magician does to us on a stage. Could this news report be doing that? Maybe. Could the cops be some racist pigs? Maybe. I just hope justice prevails.
I like cops
My question is what did the kids even do to deserve this level of interjection? They got confronted over an "expression"? WTF am I missing here?
The cops are going to get jammed up, this is not going to turn out good for them. Doesn't matter what the department says, the video tells the story, the cops escalated the situation when they are clearly trained to deescalate, the cops were wrong here.
The charges should be dropped and the cops deserve a minor vacation, maybe a month.
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