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    House votes to derail Obamacare

    The GOP-controlled House voted Friday to cripple President Barack Obama's health care law as part of a risky ploy that threatens a partial shutdown of the government in a week and a half.

    The fight is coming on a stopgap funding measure required to keep the government fully running after the Oct. 1 start of the new budget year. Typically, such measures advance with sweeping bipartisan support, but tea party activists forced GOP leaders against their better judgment to add a provision to cripple the health care law that is the signature accomplishment of Obama's first term.

    Republicans welcomed the vote, saying the new health care law is a disaster that is forcing cutbacks in workers' hours, raising health insurance premiums and being implemented unfairly. House Republicans have voted more than 40 times to disable all or part of the health care law...

    At a post-vote rally by House Republicans, Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, called the measure's approval "a victory today for the American people" and turned the spotlight on the Democratic Senate.

    "Our message to the United State Senate is real simple: The American people don't want the government shut down, and they don't want Obamacare," he said to cheers from his GOP colleagues. "The House has listened to the American people. Now it's time for the United States Senate to listen to them as well."

    The temporary funding bill is needed because Washington's longstanding budget stalemate has derailed the annual appropriations bills required to fund federal agency operations.

    The fight over the must-do funding bill comes as Washington is bracing for an even bigger battle over increasing the government's borrowing cap to make sure the government can pay its bills. Democrats say they won't be held hostage and allow Republicans to use the must-pass measures as leverage to win legislative victories that they otherwise couldn't...

    Even before Friday's House vote, lawmakers were looking a couple of moves ahead on the congressional chessboard to a scenario in which the Democratic Senate would remove the "defund Obamacare" provision and kick the funding measure back to the House for a showdown next weekend.

    GOP leaders haven't said what they'll do then, but with the deadline looming at midnight on Monday, Sept. 30, a further volley of legislative ping pong that prolongs the impasse could spark the first shutdown since the 1995-96 battle that helped resurrect President Bill Clinton's popularity.

    http://news.yahoo.com/house-votes-de...-politics.html

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    This isn't going anywhere. Political grandstanding at most. It'll never pass the Senate. Plus I read somewhere that a chunk of the non-house Republicans (including Jeb Bush and Newt Gingrich) have come out and said this is a terrible idea. Forcing a government shut down over something that is never going to pass is only going to annihilate voters. Keep doing this guys. All you're doing is gift-wrapping 2016 for Hillary...

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    how much money have the republicans wasted in this effort against obamacare, has to be close to what they say obamacare costs lol good use of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick1 View Post
    how much money have the republicans wasted in this effort against obamacare, has to be close to what they say obamacare costs lol good use of money
    I think we are at 42 or 43 times to derail this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick1 View Post
    how much money have the republicans wasted in this effort against obamacare, has to be close to what they say obamacare costs lol good use of money
    That's a good point I hadn't considered. They know it's not going to pass, yet they keep using time and resources on it? They might as well donate that money directly to Hillary's campaign fund. All this does is appease the fringe righties. Those people are voting for whomever has an (R) next to their name regardless. But what it is effectively doing is taking those moderate conservatives and independents and chasing them away. Maybe not necessarily to the Democrats, but anyone not voting for their candidate is an advantage for the Democratic nominee...
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    A conservative (Tea Party?) Superpac here in Kentucky is running ads on TV blaming McConnell for not leading the fight to defund the ACA. It tells everyone to contact McConnell to get him to fight to end it. LOL out of all of things you can blame ol' Mitch for they pick something he can do nothing about.

    The House Republicans are doing this to appease the more right wing (Tea Party) members of the house. At this point it's just making our party look bad. They should just let it go and when it becomes the complete cluster-you know what that we all know it's going to become, they can use it against Hillary in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    A conservative (Tea Party?) Superpac here in Kentucky is running ads on TV blaming McConnell for not leading the fight to defund the ACA. It tells everyone to contact McConnell to get him to fight to end it. LOL out of all of things you can blame ol' Mitch for they pick something he can do nothing about.

    The House Republicans are doing this to appease the more right wing (Tea Party) members of the house. At this point it's just making our party look bad. They should just let it go and when it becomes the complete cluster-you know what that we all know it's going to become, they can use it against Hillary in 2016.
    I disagree that it'll be a cluster****, but I absolutely agree with your premise. If they are so sure it's a terrible thing, they need to sit back and let it implode on the Democrats. But the fact that they are working their asses off to not even let it get off the ground tells me that they know it's going to be successful on some level. I know economists in general tend to agree that it's going to lower premiums for most Americans. But even if that's not true, it's going to be tough to convince people that eliminating pre-existing conditions and doing away with those crappy plans that cover nothing is a bad thing...
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    How can anyone support and defend the corporatist wet dream known as Obamacare?? You know who loves it?? The Health Insurance and Drug Companies that wrote it.





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    The House approved a spending bill early Sunday morning that would fund the government through Dec. 15, but tacked on amendments that would delay the federal health care law known as Obamacare for one year and repeal the medical device tax, a move that sets up a showdown with Senate Democrats and increases the probability of a government shutdown Tuesday.

    The Obamacare delay amendment passed 231-192, and the vote on the medical device tax, which would help cover the costs of Obamacare, was 248-174. The House also unanimously passed a bill to fund the military in the event of a shutdown.

    Congress must agree to a federal spending bill by Tuesday, or the federal government will partially close down until members can find a compromise solution. The Republican-led House and the Democrat-controlled Senate disagree over whether the bill should include the health care law. Last week, the House sent a spending bill to the Senate without Obamacare funding , and the Senate responded by returning the bill on Friday with the funding inserted.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Saturday after the Republicans announced their spending plan that the upper chamber would reject anything short of a bill identical to the one passed by the Senate, and the White House issued a statement saying that the president would veto the House bill.

    “Today’s vote by House Republicans is pointless. As I have said repeatedly, the Senate will reject any Republican attempt to force changes to the Affordable Care Act through a mandatory government funding bill or the debt ceiling," Reid said in a statement. "To be absolutely clear, the Senate will reject both the one-year delay of the Affordable Care Act and the repeal of the medical device tax."
    http://news.yahoo.com/house-republic...151356907.html

    Even for this House, this is incredible stupid.
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    only a moron would support obamacare.

    why do you think they gave out exemptions?
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