"Politics is the Art of Looking for Trouble, Finding it Everywhere, Diagnosing it Incorrectly, and Applying the Wrong Remedies"
Oh and didn't the democrats help kill the public option??
And I didn't answer your question because there is no reasoning with an unreasonable person. You're not an unreasonable person in general, but when topics like this come up, you absolutely are...
I was complaining about us the taxpayers cutting checks to the insurance and drug companies. And how it won't result to lower costs at all ie. "affordable care act" when we cut checks to them. If anything it rewards them for charging the living sh*t out of us and only gives them the incentive to keep costs high. It's simple really and a total boondoggle and scam wrapped in a pretty little bow. How you twist that into caring more for money than healthcare is beyond me. I don't like scams and tricks. And Obamacare is one of the biggest there is. This isn't unreasonable or partisan the MAJORITY of the country is against Obamacare. Everyone from unions, democrats, GOP and independents.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...m_politics_popThe Republican-controlled House canceled a vote Tuesday night on a plan to reopen the federal government and raise the debt ceiling after support from conservatives for the deal crumbled, leaving Washington without a clear path forward for avoiding a first-ever default on the nation’s debt.
Later Tuesday night, Senate leaders Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell moved to pick up the pieces of the shattered House effort, with aides to both senators expressing optimism a deal could be soon at hand...
It was already far from clear if the House proposal could attract enough support in the Democratic-controlled Senate to end Washington’s political crisis. The plan contains several provisions that Democrats have strongly opposed.
The influential conservative group Heritage Action also opposed the House proposal soon after it was announced, and conservatives close to the House leadership expressed alarm that they had shut down the government and would get nothing for it except a punitive measure restricting their own staff’s healthcare, according to senior House Republican aides.
“I’ve got one vote and I’m a no,” Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said as he left a meeting with House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) leadership team.
The stunning turnaround could represent yet another rebuke to Boehner, whose previous efforts at compromise have been thwarted by his party’s right flank. And with the U.S. Treasury set to exhaust its ability to borrow money on Thursday, Fitch Ratings, a credit rating agency, announced Tuesday that it was accelerating its timetable for a potential U.S. credit rating downgrade, among the first concrete effects of the standoff. If Fitch follows through, it would become the second credit rating firm to downgrade U.S. government debt, potentially triggering ripple effects across a range of financial markets.
You almost have to feel sorry for Boehner...you know, if you didnt realize that he was part of the problem.
Terrorist attack count against the Anything Goes Thread: 5
Well I'm glad to see we have moved to some new topics in the last couples of years ...
after years to prepare, I think we can all agree that the roll out of O care has been less than stellar.
not sure Vegas would put much on a large centralized bureaucracy getting it right on this one.
How is not raising the debt ceiling a default??The Republican-controlled House canceled a vote Tuesday night on a plan to reopen the federal government and raise the debt ceiling after support from conservatives for the deal crumbled, leaving Washington without a clear path forward for avoiding a first-ever default on the nation’s debt.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/republ...rticle/2537193What if, instead of throwing its political energy into a failing effort to defund Obamacare, the Republican Party had spent the month of August, and then September, and now October, pounding the Obama administration on the arrival of the president's national health care scheme? What if the days before October 1 had been filled with Republican predictions of calamity, and the days after filled with Republican exploitation of that calamity? If the GOP had taken that path, the party might be in a very different place than it is today. The White House, too.
An interesting "alternate history" for those that enjoy that type of thing. Nothing earth shattering, no revelations, but just a logical chain of events on how much stronger the GOP would be today if they had decided not to play stupid politics. The author makes a compelling case.