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Thread: 60% of Americans believe a 3rd party is needed.

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    The main problem with third parties is that there's no set of issues that unites enough people to threat the major parties. It's a big, disorganized mass that no presidential candidate could hope to unite.
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    A 3rd party will force the other 2 parties to be honest. And not the BS synchronized swimming charade in Washington right now. Total positive for the country and our liberties. Granted it's a huge mountain to climb and a 3rd party needs to win local and state elections. But a viable and good 3rd party candidate hasn't seen the fertile ground and opportunity to make a difference than right now. The country is sick and tired of the GOP and the Dems. Perfect time to get the ball rolling.





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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog 88 View Post
    Term limits are far more important than a third party.
    That is the damned truth!

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    We have had third parties rise to prominence before. The Republican Party started out as a third party that formed from Whig exiles, the remnants of the Anti-Masonic Party, and a few smaller third parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valandui View Post
    We have had third parties rise to prominence before. The Republican Party started out as a third party that formed from Whig exiles, the remnants of the Anti-Masonic Party, and a few smaller third parties.
    The bad thing is that a third party will almost assuredly be the result of a split in the Republican Party which ensures liberal dominance for a while. I may need to move to Belize!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valandui View Post
    We have had third parties rise to prominence before. The Republican Party started out as a third party that formed from Whig exiles, the remnants of the Anti-Masonic Party, and a few smaller third parties.
    That was 160+ years ago, though. And anyway the Whig Party itself was a disorganized mismash of anti-Andrew Jackson/pro-Congressional power over the President voices, a relic of a time when political parties were brand new and still sort of frowned upon (the founders warned against their influence). After Jackson died and his acolytes became less, well... Jacksonian the party was doomed to implosion. The Republican Party established itself as the urban/liberal party and the Democratic Party was the rural/conservative party. The parties have switched roles a few times since then but as long as the main political differences in this country are between urban and rural voices there will be two major parties that dominate.

    As I said earlier, what would a third party look like? What would it's policy positions be? The middle is a complete cluster**** of socially liberal fiscal conservatives (Jon Huntsman) and socially conservative big business protectionists (Rick Santorum), along with a whole smear of libertarians, socialists, conspiracy theorists and various whackjobs. Show me a party platform that can get a 1/3 of the voting public behind it and you'll have a case for a third party. But I just don't see it happening. No one candidate is going to unite the groups I've just named. No way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    That was 160+ years ago, though. And anyway the Whig Party itself was a disorganized mismash of anti-Andrew Jackson/pro-Congressional power over the President voices, a relic of a time when political parties were brand new and still sort of frowned upon (the founders warned against their influence). After Jackson died and his acolytes became less, well... Jacksonian the party was doomed to implosion. The Republican Party established itself as the urban/liberal party and the Democratic Party was the rural/conservative party. The parties have switched roles twice since then but as long as the main political differences in this country are between urban and rural voices there will be two major parties that dominate.

    As I said earlier, what would a third party look like? What would it's policy positions be? The middle is a complete cluster**** of socially liberal fiscal conservatives (Jon Huntsman) and socially conservative big business protectionists (Rick Santorum), along with a whole smear of libertarians, socialists, conspiracy theorists and various whackjobs. Show me a party platform that can get a 1/3 of the voting public behind it and you'll have a case for a third party. But I just don't see it happening. No candidate is going to unite the groups I've just named. No way.
    So let's give up to the left right paradigm, synchronized swimming charade that we have now. There's no hope, resistance is futile type mentality right??? F that!!!
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    Two party system sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog 88 View Post
    Term limits are far more important than a third party.
    Yes!

    Sadly we need a constitutional amendment for that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    That was 160+ years ago, though. And anyway the Whig Party itself was a disorganized mismash of anti-Andrew Jackson/pro-Congressional power over the President voices, a relic of a time when political parties were brand new and still sort of frowned upon (the founders warned against their influence). After Jackson died and his acolytes became less, well... Jacksonian the party was doomed to implosion. The Republican Party established itself as the urban/liberal party and the Democratic Party was the rural/conservative party. The parties have switched roles a few times since then but as long as the main political differences in this country are between urban and rural voices there will be two major parties that dominate.

    As I said earlier, what would a third party look like? What would it's policy positions be? The middle is a complete cluster**** of socially liberal fiscal conservatives (Jon Huntsman) and socially conservative big business protectionists (Rick Santorum), along with a whole smear of libertarians, socialists, conspiracy theorists and various whackjobs. Show me a party platform that can get a 1/3 of the voting public behind it and you'll have a case for a third party. But I just don't see it happening. No one candidate is going to unite the groups I've just named. No way.
    I don't disagree, I was just pointing out that there is precedence.
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