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    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;


    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;


    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;


    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;


    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;


    To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;


    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;


    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;


    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;


    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;


    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;


    To provide and maintain a Navy;


    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;


    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;


    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And


    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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    Amendment 10
    The powers not delegated to the United states by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively , or the people.


    Health care is a business. The Constitution gives the government the jurisdiction over business. Or does your copy of the Constitution not include the Commerce Clause?

    So in your mind the fed can tell you what car to buy and when to buy it ?????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    So in your mind the fed can tell you what car to buy and when to buy it ?????????????
    Telling you what car to buy =/= passing health care laws.

    If you think the mandate is unconstitutional, then that's a reasonable stance to take. But health care certainly counts as "commerce" and the Constitution gives the government the authority to regulate commerce.
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    since locke, spesh and the walrus all signed up for obamacare on the 1st day, i wonder who the other three were?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbone34 View Post
    since locke, spesh and the walrus all signed up for obamacare on the 1st day, i wouldn't who the other three were?
    Do tell, how how would one sign up for Obamacare? Obamacare isn't a healthcare plan. It's a law stating that everyone must be insured and it dictates what the actual insurance companies can and can't do. How would Spesh, Walrus, and myself sign up for a law? This should be interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbone34 View Post
    since locke, spesh and the walrus all signed up for obamacare on the 1st day, i wonder who the other three were?
    Romney. That dude is all about socialized health care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    Do tell, how how would one sign up for Obamacare? Obamacare isn't a healthcare plan. It's a law stating that everyone must be insured and it dictates what the actual insurance companies can and can't do. How would Spesh, Walrus, and myself sign up for a law? This should be interesting...
    That is a good point. If you, Walrus, Lock, or maybe Lou have any real information as to what people are actually signing up for and who is administering it, I would appreciate it. Is it essentially a clearinghouse for insurance companies and potential customers to come together in an exchange? No retarded comments here, this is a legitimate question.

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    Why don't we all quit BSing here.
    With what doctors and hospitals charge compared to the income in this country and the cost of living in this country.
    Health care is out of reach for many.
    Obama can not legislate his way out of that with his illegal mandates.
    End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    That is a good point. If you, Walrus, Lock, or maybe Lou have any real information as to what people are actually signing up for and who is administering it, I would appreciate it. Is it essentially a clearinghouse for insurance companies and potential customers to come together in an exchange? No retarded comments here, this is a legitimate question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    Are you asking how the whole thing works? I just want to make sure that's what you're asking before I attempt to answer.
    I understand all of it except the "exchanges" and what exactly it is that people are going to the website to sign up for. I didn't think they had a public option which is something I may actually support, if they play on a level playing field with everyone else.

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    I think I saw Spesh at 1:05 in this video and now his avatar makes a lot more sense.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfP6LmJiSec
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