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    Most U.S. libertarians do not identify with Tea Party: survey

    Most American libertarians do not consider themselves part of the conservative Tea Party movement despite a public perception that the two political groups are linked, according to a national survey released on Tuesday.
    Libertarians, who generally support maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of government, differ sharply with the Tea Party and religious conservatives on issues such as abortion and decriminalization of marijuana, according to the survey by the non-partisan Public Religion Research Institute.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...99S03Q20131029





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    I can agree with most of this.

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    I apparently am very much a Libertarian. I didn't really know much about it before this last election but I am extremely fiscally conservative and fairly liberal socially. Let everyone do whatever they want, just leave me alone!

    With that being said, it is sad what has happened to the Tea Party as it started as a purely fiscal movement but was overrun by the religious right. The sound fiscal movement was destroyed, a real shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    I apparently am very much a Libertarian. I didn't really know much about it before this last election but I am extremely fiscally conservative and fairly liberal socially. Let everyone do whatever they want, just leave me alone!

    With that being said, it is sad what has happened to the Tea Party as it started as a purely fiscal movement but was overrun by the religious right. The sound fiscal movement was destroyed, a real shame.

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    If by religious right you mean neocons, then I agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valandui View Post
    If by religious right you mean neocons, then I agree with you.
    For the most part, yes. I am very Christian but find it appalling to force someone into my morality by legally mandating behavior. I do not morally agree with gay lifestyle/marriage, drug use, or abortion but could not imagine depriving someone of their choice...that is between them and God.

    The Tea Party started as a grass roots movement to reduce taxes through prudent spending. It now seems like a bunch of nut jobs planning on bombing abortion clinics. I have been to some of the initial rallies and no social issues were mentioned at all, it was all fiscal. It should have stayed that way, the political climate might be different and conservatives wouldn't be viewed as wackos nearly as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    For the most part, yes. I am very Christian but find it appalling to force someone into my morality by legally mandating behavior. I do not morally agree with gay lifestyle/marriage, drug use, or abortion but could not imagine depriving someone of their choice...that is between them and God.

    The Tea Party started as a grass roots movement to reduce taxes through prudent spending. It now seems like a bunch of nut jobs planning on bombing abortion clinics. I have been to some of the initial rallies and no social issues were mentioned at all, it was all fiscal. It should have stayed that way, the political climate might be different and conservatives wouldn't be viewed as wackos nearly as much.

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    I agree on all of that except abortion. While I'm definitely not of the abortion clinic bomber persuasion, I do feel that it is murder and should be treated as such. It's a sanctity of life issue. This is the same reason that I've recently come to be against the death penalty. Having said that, if one state wants to punish it differently than another, that's on them. I also don't support gay marriage, but I'm not a fan of government being involved in marriage at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valandui View Post
    I agree on all of that except abortion. While I'm definitely not of the abortion clinic bomber persuasion, I do feel that it is murder and should be treated as such. It's a sanctity of life issue. This is the same reason that I've recently come to be against the death penalty. Having said that, if one state wants to punish it differently than another, that's on them. I also don't support gay marriage, but I'm not a fan of government being involved in marriage at all.
    I agree with you on all accounts but think our resources are much better spent on helping people make better decisions like not getting pregnant or adoption rather than fighting the legal nightmare to outlaw it. Even if it were outlawed, black market abortions would go crazy and we would lose a lot of moms and babies.

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    Makes sense. Libertarians are not big fans of being a part of a political group and there being some sort of chain of command. Just goes against their nature, imo. I can identify with that. At the same time, though, it's why they don't have much political power.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    Makes sense. Libertarians are not big fans of being a part of a political group and there being some sort of chain of command. Just goes against their nature, imo. I can identify with that. At the same time, though, it's why they don't have much political power.
    I don't know if it is not liking being part of a political group or chain of command or if it is just half-identifying with both of the major political parties. Although I vote Republican, it is almost exclusively for fiscal issues as I am pretty liberal socially. It is definitely a "lesser of two evils" type of decision. However, you are correct that Libertarians lack in political power because they realistically have a foot in each party but no real foothold in either.
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