I have no words for this thread. No words. If you want to know why the Tea Party and other far righties are handing this country over to the left, this thread should be exhibit 1A...
I like my free speech. With free speech comes the responsibility of knowing when you can and can't use words. ****** is no worse than calling someone a Nazi, Kike, whop or any other slander that is meant to degrade a person by race, color or creed. When a word is used in a slanderous way it doesn't matter who says it, it is just ignorant.
Now if I'm with my buddies and I use any word deemed socially unacceptable it doesn't matter one bit if the context of the comment isn't mean to be slanderous toward an unwilling person. I have no problem with anyone using a vulgar or racially charged word if it is done in light or zest and it is used in a non-racial way.
You start banning words and everything we as Americans ever fought for is gone, sorry but even a word such as ****** can never be limited from free speech or the whole principle of free speech is undermined. I know I might take heat for thinking like that but it is what it is and you have to take the good with the bad when it comes to a free society.
The real problem isn't the word ******, it is educating young people to realize that the transgressions of the past and present that are attached to the word are ignorant and unneeded in society, the word itself is harmless but the actions that suround the use are what matters.
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I thought I can say whatever I want because the first amendment says I can....not that I use the word but If i want to I can.
There are only 2 possible outcomes for the word imo:
A. It'll get bred out of existence (both literally and figuratively) and will only be used in historical context, kind of like the word negro is used today.
B. It'll continue on the path its on now which is it'll become more of a mainstream playful insult no matter your background and less of a racial hate word.
It might take hundreds of years but either way at some point the word will be as offensive as somebody taking "the lords" name in vain is today.
I was a teacher in a school that was made up of about 90% black kids. By the end up the year, my students had a running joke/goal, in which they'd attempt to get me to say n***a. Had I said that word on my first week, month, or semester, even in jest, they'd probably have gone crazy. It's still the same word, but the meaning and context behind it were totally different. That is what white people must understand. Black people aren't offended by the word (it doesn't have any special powers). They're offended by the meaning behind the word. If a random white person says it, the implication to a black person is disrespect. That's why Incognito could use the word in the locker room, and no one even blinked. That's why I could have said it in my classroom, and my kids would have laughed. Because, both Incognito and I gained the respect of our black teammates/students.
It's like social interaction 101, words carry different meanings when said in different situations, or by different people. Context is everything.
Debates like this make me snicker. You guys should come to work in a prison.
Our shift turnout would make an HR rep's head blow up. At my last unit we had
homosexuals, every minority other than Asian, and every religion under the sun.
The summary brutality of the banter in turnout was indicitive of the work environment
and it's all part of the game.
They are used without predjudice, generally and are mentioned in conversations as reference points.
"Hey, where's A-202 Bottom at?"
"That white boy?"