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Thread: Hayden Fox's Assessment: Week 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    Its late. I cannot debate the QB this late.
    To not put anything on Tannyhill is absurd. He is not even average at this point, and shows no fire at all. Is he ever angry? Does he ever get in someone's face and get them stoked? He inspires no one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabeastdabone View Post
    We had no running game to compliment it. Our running game was short passes. Blame the nonexistent running game.
    Short passes aren't incompatible with passing efficiency.
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    Outstanding post ........excellent comments
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    Quote Originally Posted by shouright View Post
    The Buccaneers scored 22 points on 21 pass attempts, which is about the number of points per pass the Denver Broncos (the league leaders in that area) score this year.

    The Dolphins on the other hand scored 19 points on 42 pass attempts, which is about what the Cleveland Browns have done this year.

    Moreover, the Buccaneers prior to tonight scored only 0.42 points per pass attempt, and we managed to increase that to more than a point per attempt tonight, while scoring fewer points per attempt ourselves than we had typically.

    In terms of scoring efficiency, we turned the Tampa Bay Buccaneers into the Denver Broncos, while we became the Cleveland Browns.

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    There is no relationship between rushing performance and passing efficiency. A team can still pass the ball efficiently while running the ball poorly.

    Now, if you'd like to make the argument that the team should've rushed the ball more, I'm with you.
    Except you related passing efficiency to winning. Pretty sure 2 yards rushing also played a role in the loss.
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    I was at the game...QB was the problem on exactly one play. Tannehill failed to get the ball deep to Wallace on one of the rare chances versus Revis. Other than that, I saw a very limited number of plays where he didn't make the right read or the right throw, etc. Almost every pass was short tonight, and that is by design with this horrid offensive line. That's just the state of things, he has to get the ball out in a short time frame or get killed. The real problem here is that we are limiting our chances and having to play on our heels on offense almost constantly because our defense, regardless of opponent, can't get off the field and flat out fails to make plays that could and should be drive enders. The bulk falls our LB corps, who despite once again having significant money put into them, are missing tackles on seemingly half their opportunities, and simply can't cover anyone when asked to either. Except for blitzing, they are useless, and even then they are dumb enough to extend drives with stupid penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PogiRo View Post
    Except you related passing efficiency to winning. Pretty sure 2 yards rushing also played a role in the loss.
    Sure, but it didn't necessarily play a role in the passing inefficiency.

    In other words, the passing could've still been efficient despite the rushing performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shouright View Post
    Sure, but it didn't necessarily play a role in the passing inefficiency.

    In other words, the passing could've still been efficient despite the rushing performance.
    Actually, yes, having a running game that is completely irrelevant does have an effect on the passing game. Their corners were able to stay back on both Wallace and Hartline, taking away the opportunity for deep passes, with their safeties covering the deep middle. They were able to stop the run without keeping any secondary members near the LOS, which plays a huge effect on the passing game.
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    Here's my assessment: this team blows.

    Fire everyone.

    Ice up, Leodis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirspud View Post
    Actually, yes, having a running game that is completely irrelevant does have an effect on the passing game. Their corners were able to stay back on both Wallace and Hartline, taking away the opportunity for deep passes, with their safeties covering the deep middle. They were able to stop the run without keeping any secondary members near the LOS, which plays a huge effect on the passing game.
    That effect doesn't exist league-wide. The correlations between running game variables and passing efficiency don't exceed the low 30s. In other words, a team can still pass efficiently when its running game is performing poorly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shouright View Post
    That effect doesn't exist league-wide. The correlations between running game variables and passing efficiency don't exceed the low 30s. In other words, a team can still pass efficiently when its running game is performing poorly.
    Yes, it is possible, but it's much harder, and I am almost positive that the guys who do buck the trend are also guys named Brady, Brees, Rodgers, or even a guy like Phillip Rivers. Basically, guys who are either HOF caliber, have had years in the same offense with most of the same players, and established years ago that they are their teams best weapon and their organizations built accordingly. Other guys may buck the trend every once in a while, but it wouldn't be trend if they did all the time. It's ridiculous to expect a second year QB to do that all the time, especially considering the terrible line which was so even before two of its starters were off the team, and yet Tannehill did that not once, not twice, but three times to start the year. Him failing to best the trend right now is simply regression to the mean that even guys like Luck and Russell Wilson would suffer.
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