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Thread: Tannehill 5th Ranked as a "Passer"

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    Let's stop using the espn qbr, I rather not spread any opinion that the stat is worth anything. Maybe if we don't pay attention it will go away
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    QBR is a joke, but even Shourigt's link, there are only 22 QBs above him all time, and most of them are either hall of famers or borderline hall of famers. Not bad company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkapePhin View Post
    QBR is a joke, but even Shourigt's link, there are only 22 QBs above him all time, and most of them are either hall of famers or borderline hall of famers. Not bad company.
    The stat has been kept by ESPN.com only since 2006.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shouright View Post
    The stat has been kept by ESPN.com only since 2006.
    And how many QBs have started in the NFL since 2006? Probably near 200. On the Dolphins alone we've had 4 or 5 QBs start in that time span. Now multiply that by 28 or so.

    Here are the QBs with higher Passer EPA seasons than Tannehill's current season:

    Drew Brees
    Peyton Manning
    Tom Brady
    Aaron Rodgers

    Tony Romo
    Matt Ryan
    Brett Favre
    Ben Roethelisberger

    Matt Schaub
    Phillip Rivers
    Matthew Stafford
    Kurt Warner
    Jay Cutler
    Chad Pennington
    Carson Palmer
    Eli Manning
    Marc Bulger
    Matt Hasselbeck
    Russell Wilson
    RG3

    *the bolded are surefire HOFers

    Tannehill's current season Passer EPA comes ahead of any season thus far by:

    Andrew Luck
    Donovan McNabb
    Sam Bradford
    Cam Newton
    Joe Flacco
    Colin Kaepernick
    Andy Dalton
    Alex Smith
    Michael Vick
    Steve McNair

    I'd say that is pretty good for a 2nd year player with only a year's worth of college experience at the position who is operating without a strong running game and a makeshift OL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkapePhin View Post
    EPA = "clutch-weighted expected points added on plays with pass attempts"

    This gives us absolutely ZERO clue how it is calculated. !
    QBR is a ****ing stupid stat.
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    Unless we're discussing golf, I can pretty much look at a 65 and tell it's not special
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinfanInBuffalo View Post
    Originally from an article on the Sen Sentinel site:

    'What's interesting (as Alert E-mailer "Larry Larry" pointed out) is that Tannehill ranks fifth when only the passing component of the QBR is figured. Brady, more in keeping with what you might expect, is fourth. In fact, the passing-only filter includes many of the names you'd expect (in order): Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Brady, Tannehill, Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger and Matthew Stafford."

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaPassesCondensed
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    Quote Originally Posted by shouright View Post
    Now look here and see where Tannehill's 65 falls, for a bit of perspective:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/year/0/...assesCondensed
    You do realize that stat is compounded over the weeks right? He had the highest passing EPA last week and is averaging 5.5 points per week. Carry that over for two more weeks and he's closer to 77 for the season which will put him in the top 40 on your all-time list. Not bad for a guy that just started coming into his own.
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    Tannehill should be better judged by his W-L record and right now he has more "w's" than "L's". Qb stats are misleading like most stats are. They take zero consideration on adjustments by the wideouts and overall skills needed to catch a pass. How many passes are caught because the receiver bailed the qb out?
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