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Thread: Are GM Problems on Ross, Philbin, or Both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sons of Shula View Post
    GM problems??? Ireland's still gone right?

    There are no problems other than the ridiculous story lines manufactured by bored and misinformed media/fans.
    Have to agree with this. We have a PR problem, not a GM problem.
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    This franchise is a joke and post child for how you don't do things. I mean any club should always have a short list of possible candiates to replace everyone so that when stuff like this happens you don't open it for everyone you might be interested in and doing 50 interviews to see who you want. This seach is a joke and should be over by now instead candidates appear to be dropping like flies and another black eye on Ross and the Dolphins disfunctional hiring process. Granted we don't have all the details but is a mess and why other teams look at Miami as a joke this front office is come to be known as. From hiring coaches and now GM. Ross may be able to make money but he is horrid at making decisions and really would be better off selling this team to football minded owner.
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    I have to wonder if Gaine does not get along with Philbin as well. I have no idea if he actually agreed with Ireland on disagreements with Philbin or, just went along with his boss.

    Cleveland's new HC is their #7 choice. Are we there yet with a new GM? I lost track.
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    Yeah, I agree about this being purely a PR issue.

    EVERY GM search is probably exactly like this, the difference here is that Ross made a grandiose display of this being a TRANSPARENT GM search,

    so every media hack had time to load up and hunker down and play sniper and shoot down everything that moves.

    WTF would he make this a transparent search knowing what the local climate with the media is like?

    The only reason the dolphins are such a laughing stock nationally is because the local media make every thing they do out to be a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAFINFAN View Post
    This franchise is a joke and post child for how you don't do things. I mean any club should always have a short list of possible candiates to replace everyone so that when stuff like this happens you don't open it for everyone you might be interested in and doing 50 interviews to see who you want. This seach is a joke and should be over by now instead candidates appear to be dropping like flies and another black eye on Ross and the Dolphins disfunctional hiring process. Granted we don't have all the details but is a mess and why other teams look at Miami as a joke this front office is come to be known as. From hiring coaches and now GM. Ross may be able to make money but he is horrid at making decisions and really would be better off selling this team to football minded owner.
    Isn't that how in got in trouble with Harbaugh, looking for coaches while he still had one in place? Its a lose lose, if you try to line up guys before you fire the person you look bad and if you fire the person first without talking to anybody you look bad.
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    ROSS.......period!!

    everything from him rolls down hill, like the goofy power structure thing that seems to be proven as truth, and not rumor, with every report.

    ross just flat out killed himself over the harbaugh thing even causing guys like bill cowher to say he would NEVER work for an owner who would go after a coach when he still had one in place.

    and many in the nfl have never forgotten. then add the martin thing that most, right or wrong gets pinned on him. bad office people, ireland, silly hollywood who cares ownership. on and on.... .

    and now, instead of going after a REAL football man, who controls ALL things football on the finz from scouting to draft to free agenct to coaches [as most, including nfl poeple] feel he needs to do, he is looking for a political piece, a piece of the aponte power structure that NO ONE, fans, candidates, media know exactly how it is defined, who will answer to who, who is responsible for what. another head scratching quagmire form the desk of steven ross. another strike!

    CONGRATULATIONS to RAY FARMER for seeing he was walking into a token situation, a political face and faux power. ray farmer may or may not be a great gm someday but at least when he gets that gig it wont have the stench of of the martin debacle and its implications. ray basically turning down a gm gig, or a strong possibility of one says a lot about his character. we just MAY have lost out on a good one. but he obviously saw something in the interviews he didnt like.

    OR......., maybe its clear to him [and maybe others] that GAINE has been the guy all along and this whole gm search is a prop to help ease the blow back from the fans of keeping irelands right hand man on board. the old, "we tried, we looked high and low but no one really fit our vision of the future for the miami dolphins. and then we realized we had our man all along, someone who has been here and has worked well with our staff [aponte] and also shares our vision". this speech has a STRONG possibility of being read from the podium verbatim. and this my worst nightmare!!!

    WELL DONE RAY!!! WELL DONE!!! i hope everything works out for your future and your hired by a team that lets YOU be a real gm.
    LIFE BEHIND BARS!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by roy_miami View Post
    Isn't that how in got in trouble with Harbaugh, looking for coaches while he still had one in place? Its a lose lose, if you try to line up guys before you fire the person you look bad and if you fire the person first without talking to anybody you look bad.
    I get your point but any owner that knows what they are doing has a short list of potential replacements if that time comes to avoid situations where you drag the process out as much has Miami has seemed to do. It's a circus, or higher a company to do this for you and get you the best candidates to interview and try and keep out of media. Coaches have a list of back ups for their coaching staffs so that if same situation arises they have candidates to start off with and avoid situations like this.

    Everything just seems so disorganized and drawn out that they are missing out on good candidates and by the time they get to decision will end up with gaine probably by default since the other candidates are dropping like flies since their appears to be no end in sight. Ross is a business man and having someone outside the organization hold his hand and recommend candidates is a joke now because Peterson is far from and expert as the Chiefs turned the corner after he left. Miami just needs football people to run the show and quit with this embarrasing way of handling important decisions like this and head coach. major black eye
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