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Thread: Is there no end in sight for poor leadership in this country?

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    Is there no end in sight for poor leadership in this country?

    Hillary, Christie, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan are the supposed contenders to get the nominations for their respective parties.

    After nearly two decades of god-awful leadership at the top, we are lining up THESE candidates to take the mantle?

    I used to have some respect for Christie's no-nonsense demeanor, but bridge-gate exposed him as a fraud. I used to be somewhat attracted to Rand's libertarian sensibilities, but he too has been exposed to be your typical Washington politician playing games for power at the expense of the people.

    Why does it seem as if there has been a leadership vacuum in the executive office in Dolphin-like proportions? There doesn't seem to be a single inspiring figure out there that would give us any hope of displaying true leadership and doing what's best for the future of the nation and it's people, rather than for corporate cronies and political allies.

    Just a sad state of affairs...


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    Hoping for a dark horse 3rd party candidate. All polls show the American public is ready for it. The Dems and the GOP have failed us on every level. Arguing over which one is better is like choosing between a douchebag and terd sandwich. Rand won't get the nom. No way someone who wants to audit the Fed and the Defense Dept. gets to be prez. It will be Hillary vs. Christie or maybe even Jeb Bush. Think about that for a second........a Bush or Clinton have been involved with the presidency on some level for 34 years. More if you included CIA and lower level stuff. It's our version of a monarchy. Time to end that ****.





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    As long as Hilliary is defeated, it will be a small victory.
    We do not need lawyers running the country. They are more crooked than the mafia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post
    As long as Hilliary is defeated, it will be a small victory.
    We do not need lawyers running the country. They are more crooked than the mafia.
    More than half of US presidents have been lawyers, including guys like Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Lincoln.

    Also FDR, but I'm betting you're not a fan of his.
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    So far this thread is bipartisan and I hope it stays that way .
    The biggest problem facing this country is not the democrats or the republicans .
    It is both of them .
    We choose Miss America from fifty choices and president from two .
    What the hell is wrong with this ?
    If you think that any one in office is doing their own thinking you are wrong as it gets .
    If you are blindly loyal to either party you are a fool .
    If you think either party cares about you you are a fool .
    If you do not understand the Constitution it is time to learn it .
    You will never read a smarter document .
    Try to find a nonpartisan explanation of the Constitution .
    If you don't know .
    Ask me .
    Pop quiz .
    Who is worse ?
    The Democrats ?
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    The Republicans ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    More than half of US presidents have been lawyers, including guys like Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Lincoln.

    Also FDR, but I'm betting you're not a fan of his.

    Those men you mentioned were ethical, and not responsible for the rape and slaughter of an American Ambassador.
    Hilliary is just trying to create her "legacy". She doesn't care about this country IMHO. If you think she does or are a fan of hers, that is your issue.
    It would be better to get a different point of view, someone who can relate to the majoriy Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphins9954 View Post
    Hoping for a dark horse 3rd party candidate. All polls show the American public is ready for it.
    The system is rigged such that it's unlikely any third party candidate is ever going to win the presidency. The vast majority of third party candidates can't even manage to get on the ballot in all 50 states. With only one exception, that being Teddy Roosevelt in the 1916 election, no third party candidate has done much more than siphon off votes from one of the two major party candidates. And even in that case, all it did was make it easier for the person whose views contrast with the third party candidate to win, just like it has in every election.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    So far this thread is bipartisan and I hope it stays that way .
    The biggest problem facing this country is not the democrats or the republicans .
    It is both of them .
    You're correct in that our problem is not Democrats vs. Republicans. Our problem is rich vs. poor. Politicians depend on contributions to campaigns and PACs. They get neither in significant enough numbers from the poor, the working poor, the lower middle class, etc., to concern themselves too much with those demographics. They'll throw them a bone now and again, but the vast majority of legislation is intended to bolster the already stuffed coffers of the uber-wealthy.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    We choose Miss America from fifty choices and president from two .
    What the hell is wrong with this ?
    Actually, I'd say we choose them in similar ways. The Miss America pageant relies on primarily superficial characteristics to pick a winner, as does the American electorate.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    If you think that any one in office is doing their own thinking you are wrong as it gets .
    If you are blindly loyal to either party you are a fool .
    The corporations pull the strings far too often in both parties.
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    Until we get private money out of the election process, we're screwed. Private money corrupts the system and corrupts too many well-intentioned people that jump in the political waters. If we had publicly funded elections, it would save us a ton of money (This is one of the few areas in which most of my republican friends and I find agreement.).

    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    If you think either party cares about you you are a fool .
    The "parties" don't care about people, that's true. But there are still a few good people out there. Unfortunately, it's difficult for them to gain much traction if they don't get in bed with the corporations. I'd put Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders at the top of that list.





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    Try to find a nonpartisan explanation of the Constitution .
    There's no such thing. There were partisan disagreements and interpretations even amongst those who wrote it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post
    Those men you mentioned were ethical, and not responsible for the rape and slaughter of an American Ambassador.
    Hilliary is just trying to create her "legacy". She doesn't care about this country IMHO. If you think she does or are a fan of hers, that is your issue.
    It would be better to get a different point of view, someone who can relate to the majoriy Americans.
    I've made my distaste of the Clintons known on several occasions. Benghazi however is hardly near the top of my list of reasons why.

    I think it would be great to have a candidate who can relate to the majority of Americans. Let me know when you find him or her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    I've made my distaste of the Clintons known on several occasions. Benghazi however is hardly near the top of my list of reasons why.

    I think it would be great to have a candidate who can relate to the majority of Americans. Let me know when you find him or her.
    The monied interests (republican and democrat alike) would not allow a grass roots candidate. They would destroy them.
    Well...at least we agree on the Clinton's.
    I have on several occasions (and embarrassingly) admitted to voting for 2 democrats. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
    No one is perfect.
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