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    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post
    There was no need to investigate fraud during Bush's elections because the republicans won. Bush/gore 2000 went to court, the recount occurred and Bush won with more votes.
    Traditionally democratic? In the last 2 elections. Before Obozo, since 1970, the country has leaned conservative or moderate in every election apart from Carter. Better read your history book again.
    This country is conservative leaning. The last two elections are an aberration when compared to history.
    Republicans do not stoop to the gutter like liberals. The millennial's working in politics have no ethics. Got to hand it to them for their ingenuity and putting their computers to use. Loosening the rules of identification while voting, extending hours, and stifling the military vote has opened the door for fraud. Key districts are targeted to swing elections. It is not widespread, it is precisely targeted. It is war. It's not a secret. Many have admitted it publicly.

    Long lines? I have never waited more than 15 minutes in my 53 years. This is just propaganda. As I stated, using the money slated for a longer window could be used to add additional voting locations where needed. No one gets turned away or waits very long. Most wait 20 minutes for a doctor appointment. That is not excessive.
    Instead of skeleton crews standing in empty voting locations for days on end, the resources could be used to bolster the manpower on a single day or two.
    It doesn't help the lazy liberal progressive agenda, so they are opposed.
    It's not a secret. Many have admitted it publicly.

    We are completely opposed. Thank goodness.
    Wow. This might be the most out of touch thing I've ever read on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTC111 View Post
    Wow. This might be the most out of touch thing I've ever read on here.

    It just goes to show you how "out of touch" this place "is'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post
    The last 2 elections included lost military votes and deliberate incompetence bordering voting fraud. It's not a secret. Many have admitted it publicly.

    There was no need to investigate fraud during Bush's elections because the republicans won. Bush/gore 2000 went to court, the recount occurred and Bush won with more votes.
    Traditionally democratic? In the last 2 elections. Before Obozo, since 1970, the country has leaned conservative or moderate in every election apart from Carter. Better read your history book again.
    This country is conservative leaning. The last two elections are an aberration when compared to history.
    Republicans do not stoop to the gutter like liberals. The millennial's working in politics have no ethics. Got to hand it to them for their ingenuity and putting their computers to use. Loosening the rules of identification while voting, extending hours, and stifling the military vote has opened the door for fraud. Key districts are targeted to swing elections. It is not widespread, it is precisely targeted. It is war. It's not a secret. Many have admitted it publicly.

    Long lines? I have never waited more than 15 minutes in my 53 years. This is just propaganda. As I stated, using the money slated for a longer window could be used to add additional voting locations where needed. No one gets turned away or waits very long. Most wait 20 minutes for a doctor appointment. That is not excessive.
    Instead of skeleton crews standing in empty voting locations for days on end, the resources could be used to bolster the manpower on a single day or two.
    It doesn't help the lazy liberal progressive agenda, so they are opposed.
    It's not a secret. Many have admitted it publicly.

    We are completely opposed. Thank goodness.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...lection-fraud/

    Lets not forget how Obama won .
    This was proven and convicted fraud .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...lection-fraud/

    Lets not forget how Obama won .
    This was proven and convicted fraud .
    Fox is being deliberately misleading by calling it "election fraud" instead of "voter registration fraud." They want you to think those actions led to fraudulent voting. What the article describes didn't alter elections. It describes working falsifying documents, probably in order to meet quotas set by their bosses. There's nothing in there about anyone going to a polling place and trying to vote using one of those falsified registrations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTC111 View Post
    Fox is being deliberately misleading by calling it "election fraud" instead of "voter registration fraud." They want you to think those actions led to fraudulent voting. What the article describes didn't alter elections. It describes working falsifying documents, probably in order to meet quotas set by their bosses. There's nothing in there about anyone going to a polling place and trying to vote using one of those falsified registrations.
    Cmon man . The difference between "voter registration fraud" and "election fraud " is only the timeline .
    This is why our government is so f%*(&#$ corrupt .
    People will support the party no matter how obviously wrong they are .
    Think for your self .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    Cmon man . The difference between "voter registration fraud" and "election fraud " is only the timeline .
    This is why our government is so f%*(&#$ corrupt .
    People will support the party no matter how obviously wrong they are .
    Think for your self .
    No, you're wrong. They're two totally different acts. The person filling out those false forms wasn't going to show up on election day a dozen times pretending to be whatever name they wrote down. Perhaps you should think for yourself and not simply accept Faux News propaganda without question.

    And I'm not taking a party line; I'm insisting that we be truthful about what's actually going on. That article you linked wasn't completely truthful so I corrected the error. The crimes in that article didn't swing any states for Obama as you suggested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTC111 View Post
    Fox is being deliberately misleading by calling it "election fraud" instead of "voter registration fraud." They want you to think those actions led to fraudulent voting. What the article describes didn't alter elections. It describes working falsifying documents, probably in order to meet quotas set by their bosses. There's nothing in there about anyone going to a polling place and trying to vote using one of those falsified registrations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JTC111 View Post
    No, you're wrong. They're two totally different acts. The person filling out those false forms wasn't going to show up on election day a dozen times pretending to be whatever name they wrote down. Perhaps you should think for yourself and not simply accept Faux News propaganda without question.

    And I'm not taking a party line; I'm insisting that we be truthful about what's actually going on. That article you linked wasn't completely truthful so I corrected the error. The crimes in that article didn't swing any states for Obama as you suggested.

    The organized attempt at voter fraud was not an accident. These people were knowingly breaking laws to help Obama win the election.
    These were targeted and organized voting fraud actions in key voting districts of states that were dead even or to close to call.
    The Millennium Dems did their homework, did the polling, threw out false polling info, and took the illegal initiative(knowing that Holder would never prosecute) and did what they had to do.
    Elections are war now.
    Rahm Immanuel said that the Regressive liberals were going to put their foot on the neck of conservatives, and he meant it. Look at the results.
    They were not voting for Romney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post
    The organized attempt at voter fraud was not an accident. These people were knowingly breaking laws to help Obama win the election.
    Prove that, because that is not the crime for which they were convicted. Unless you can show they were also lining up people to actually show up and cast those votes, it is what it is, voter registration fraud. And in Nevada, they were convicted of paying people to register, not voter fraud or voter registration fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post
    These were targeted and organized voting fraud actions in key voting districts of states that were dead even or to close to call.
    Key districts? It's a presidential election. There are no "key districts." Every vote in the state counts the same as every other vote in the state.

    You're trying to sell me on the idea that a bunch of minimum wage workers who could find no other employment than seasonal work standing on a corner or going door-to-door to encourage people to register to vote, were part of some plot masterminded by Obama and his evil henchmen.



    You don't need a conspiracy theory of that magnitude to explain what happened (unless this is more about what you WANT to have happened than about reality). The more likely, albeit less likely to fit into the worldview you need to propagate, scenario is that those folks slacked off, were worried they'd be fired, and created a bunch of false registrations to cover their asses and make it look like they actually did their job. It's the simplest explanation and would have required neither elaborate planning nor very much intelligence to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post


    Spin on
    Its correct. Fox News and Republicans also count errors on ballots(examples: misspellings or mistakes) as "fraud".

    A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop. Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility. A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud. "Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert. A 2007 report by the Brennan Center for Justice, a leading advocate for voting rights at the New York University School of Law, quantified the problem in stark terms. "It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning," the report calculated, "than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls."
    In that particular case: They didnt impersonate anyone, they didnt lie,and their lack of eligibility says more about the officials than it does the individuals "trying to destroy democracy". And that report wasnt being facetious about the death by lightning thing:

    Indeed, between 2000 and 2007, there were 32,299 UFO sightings in the United States, 352 deaths caused by lightning, but only nine cases of voter impersonation, according to a great new infographic by Craiglist founder Craig Newmark.
    http://www.thenation.com/blog/167217/voter-fraud-fraud#

    Guess we better start dumping money into research to prevent death by lightning. Oh wait, that would be considered big government frivolous spending.
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