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Thread: Mosley vs. Ebron at 19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Romano View Post
    I like the idea of getting to a top defense but this team cant score enough. It has been a problem for a while now check the offensive rankings. We have to find a way to score more points a game. How does Ebron rate as far as blocking?
    He's a terrible blocker. Sometimes he doesn't even give much effort. He's a rocked up WR with the same DIVA attitude, so he fits right in.
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    Mosely would be a great pickup. Continuing to add youth and high level players to our defense will pay off. The defense is relatively young and if the young corners can step up we will have a good D for a while. Vernon, Jordan, Taylor, Odrick, Jones, Misi, Davis and the addition of Mosley will give us a very young core to our D. In this league you need linebackers who are quick and can run sideline to sideline. Mosley fits that perfect. And if i have to watch wheeler guess and shoot the wrong gap all next season, i am not going to be a happy guy.
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    I don't see either being there at 19 to be honest
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSU Cane View Post
    He's a terrible blocker. Sometimes he doesn't even give much effort. He's a rocked up WR with the same DIVA attitude, so he fits right in.
    Another issue I have with ebron is his only experience in a offense is with the spread system. I've lost count of how many players out of the spread system look lost in the NFL if there put in more pro or timing based offense.

    I'll be the first to admit, he may be the smoothest running 250 lb TE I've ever seen. But than you realize, he's kind of big for nothing, because he doesn't use his weight/size advantage at all.

    And for those reasons, and the reasons I mentioned in my earlier post, I wouldn't be surprised if amaro is higher on our draft chart. If I'm drafting a TE, especially high, I want them to be able to use there size.
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    Bpa Defense round 1 unless a top OT or WR falls. Pass on Ebron but one of the New York squads should snatch him up earlier.
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    If Mosley is available at 19 and we don't take him...
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    I'd take Ebron over Mosley, but I wouldn't be thrilled with either at 19. Ebron's primary strength - to my eyes - is his RAC ability. For a TE, he's outstanding with the ball in his hands. But I agree with xwarx in regard to Ebron not using his size well, and for a guy who is supposed to be an elite athlete (I think he's good, not elite), he doesn't get a lot of separation. His drop% is also much higher than you'd like.

    As far as Mosley, I have at least 3 Safeties, 5 CB's, 4 OLB's, 3 DT's, and 2 DE's rated higher. I don't think he and Willis should be mentioned in the same sentence. People knock Shazier for his size, but Mosley weighed in 3 lbs less than Shazier and - to my eyes - is much less physical with O-linemen. So I have at least 17 defensive players rated ahead of Mosley. Given that we're drafting at 19 and that there are three outstanding OT's and a strong group of WR's, drafting Mosley would mean passing on a better player. Mosley is solid, and I'd give him a mid-to-late 1st RD grade, but this draft has more than 32 1st RD talents.
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    I've been debating out of three players, two mentioned here. My three are Mosley, Ebron and Martin. Do to our current situation I'd have to go with Mosley then Martin and Ebron if all were available.
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    we love amaro though. If Ebron is there at 19, its possible w trade down and get him. perfect trade chip.

    also, if they do move misi inside, less likely for mosely and maybe we go shazier.

    but if martin is there, its martin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-off-her-doll View Post
    I'd take Ebron over Mosley, but I wouldn't be thrilled with either at 19. Ebron's primary strength - to my eyes - is his RAC ability. For a TE, he's outstanding with the ball in his hands. But I agree with xwarx in regard to Ebron not using his size well, and for a guy who is supposed to be an elite athlete (I think he's good, not elite), he doesn't get a lot of separation. His drop% is also much higher than you'd like.

    As far as Mosley, I have at least 3 Safeties, 5 CB's, 4 OLB's, 3 DT's, and 2 DE's rated higher. I don't think he and Willis should be mentioned in the same sentence. People knock Shazier for his size, but Mosley weighed in 3 lbs less than Shazier and - to my eyes - is much less physical with O-linemen. So I have at least 17 defensive players rated ahead of Mosley. Given that we're drafting at 19 and that there are three outstanding OT's and a strong group of WR's, drafting Mosley would mean passing on a better player. Mosley is solid, and I'd give him a mid-to-late 1st RD grade, but this draft has more than 32 1st RD talents.
    I agree, Mosley is not Willis by any means, but I also don't think Willis cam do what mosley can in the open field. I'm not a huge fan of shazier, I think he over shoots quite often. I probably havnt watched as much of him as I should though.

    But I do think your underratong just how much of the field mosley covers, to me thats his value. Earlier I compared him earl Thomas, and that's why. Mosley kind of does in the front half of the field what Thomas does in the back half. with these offenses in today's league, running high tempo and spreading you out, you need these guys with brains and ability to cover space. That's pretty hard to find, so I just cant see how you have to so many defensive players rated above him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finfan54 View Post
    we love amaro though. If Ebron is there at 19, its possible w trade down and get him. perfect trade chip.

    also, if they do move misi inside, less likely for mosely and maybe we go shazier.

    but if martin is there, its martin.
    Not just misi, but let's not forget jelani Jenkins, towards the end of the season when he got more burn, he looked pretty good.
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