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    Slimm's 2015 Runningbacks (Underclassmen)

    1. Todd Gurley / Georgia / 6'1", 232

    2. Melvin Gordon / Wisconsin / 6'1", 207

    3. Duke Johnson / Miami / 5'9", 196

    4. D.J. Foster / Arizona St. / 5'11", 205

    5. Jay Ajayi / Boise St. / 6'0", 220

    6. Kenneth Dixon / Louisiana Tech / 5'10", 220

    7. Mike Davis / South Carolina / 5'9", 215

    t8. Trey Edmunds / Virginia Tech / 6'1", 216

    t8. T.J. Yeldon / Alabama / 6'2", 218

    9. Imani Cross / Nebraska / 6'1", 225

    10. Dwayne Washington / Washington / 6'1", 220

    11. Kenyon Drake / Alabama / 6'1", 201



    Believe me, I'm not exaggerating when I say Drake might be the fastest player in all of college football. His explosion, acceleration, and speed is extremely rare.


    12. Jamaal Williams / BYU / 6'0", 210

    13. Tevin Coleman / Indiana / 6'0", 210

    14. Trey Williams / Texas A&M / 5'8", 195

    15. Storm Woods / Oregon St. / 6'0", 205

    16. Josh Robinson / Mississippi St. / 5'9", 225

    17. Keith Marshall / Georgia / 5'11", 219

    18. Javorius Allen / USC / 6'1", 215

    19. Byron Marshall / Oregon / 5'10", 207

    20. Barry Sanders Jr. / Stanford / 5'10", 192

    21. Michael Gordon / Arkansas St. / 5'9", 187

    22. B.J. Catalon / TCU / 5'9", 190

    23. Braylon Heard / Kentucky / 5'11", 190
    (Transfer from Nebraska. One of those talented and more highly recruited backs I spoke of that couldn't beat out Ameer Abdullah.)

    24. Shock Linwood / Baylor / 5'8", 200

    25. Tyreek Hill / Oklahoma St. / 5'10", 190

    26. Dallas Crawford / Miami / 5'10", 196


    Probably making the switch to safety this year, but if that doesn't work out... I know what he can do at the RB position.


    27. Travis Greene / Bowling Green / 5'10", 185

    28. DeVontae McNeal / UL-Monroe / 5'10", 209

    29. Jonathan Williams / Arkansas / 6'0", 222

    30. Brandon Williams / Texas A&M / 6'0", 200

    31. Jerron Seymour / Vanderbilt / 5'7", 200

    32. Robert Lowe / Texas St. / 5'10", 195

    33. I'Tavius Mathers / Ole Miss / 5'11", 189

    34. DeAndre Washington / Texas Tech / 5'8", 190

    35. Tra Carson / Texas A&M / 6'0", 230

    36. Leon Allen / Western Kentucky / 6'0", 235

    37. Brandon Wilds / South Carolina / 6'2", 222

    38. Matt Jones / Florida / 6'2", 235

    39. Roderick Williams / Minnesota / 5'11", 235

    40. Jaylen Walton / Ole Miss / 5'8", 170

    41. Andre Given / Bowling Green / 5'9", 200

    42. Broderick Snoddy / Georgia Tech / 5'9", 190

    43. Shaun Wick / Wyoming / 5'10", 210





    Fullbacks:

    1. Quayvon Hicks / Georgia / 6'2", 257
    (You won't see me using the words "special talent" very often when discussing fullbacks. I'll use 'em here....
    Hicks will also play some TE in 2014 because of injuries and lack of depth at the TE position for Georgia.)


    2. Devon Johnson / Marshall / 6'1", 240
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    Slimm: Would you say this is one of the best RB classes in a long time (provided the top end up declaring)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by finsfanjay13 View Post
    Slimm: Would you say this is one of the best RB classes in a long time (provided the top end up declaring)?
    I think in terms of quality depth, it's shaping up to be in that category potentially. I believe you have some special talent at the top of the underclassman list, along with Senior Karlos Williams.

    I'll always believe that the 1999 RB class of Edgerrin James, Ricky Williams, Kevin Faulk, Cecil Collins, and Olandis Gary was one of the best I ever saw. What's ironic about this class is that Cecil Collins belonged at the top with Ricky Williams and E. James in terms of talent. I'll never forget watching that 230+ yard performance he put up against Auburn as a true freshman in only his 2nd or 3rd game for LSU. The balance, power, speed, and vision he displayed for a kid just removed from high school was phenomenal.

    I think the difference is that backs aren't used as much like workhorses in the NFL now like they were back then. However, Todd Gurley is as special as any RB that has come along in recent years. You can build an offense around this kid for 3-5 years if you choose to....he's that complete of a back already. Melvin Gordon is kinda like the Cordarrelle Patterson of runningbacks. Duke Johnson is truly a special back... he's not anoverhyped back coming out of the University of Miami like Lamar Miller because of the lineage of backs that the program has produced. No, Duke Johnson is at minimum twice the player that Lamar Miller was or will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    I think in terms of quality depth, it's shaping up to be in that category potentially. I believe you have some special talent at the top of the underclassman list, along with Senior Karlos Williams.

    I'll always believe that the 1999 RB class of Edgerrin James, Ricky Williams, Kevin Faulk, Cecil Collins, and Olandis Gary was one of the best I ever saw. What's ironic about this class is that Cecil Collins belonged at the top with Ricky Williams and E. James in terms of talent. I'll never forget watching that 230+ yard performance he put up against Auburn as a true freshman in only his 2nd or 3rd game for LSU. The balance, power, speed, and vision he displayed for a kid just removed from high school was phenomenal.

    I think the difference is that backs aren't used as much like workhorses in the NFL now like they were back then. However, Todd Gurley is as special as any RB that has come along in recent years. You can build an offense around this kid for 3-5 years if you choose to....he's that complete of a back already. Melvin Gordon is kinda like the Cordarrelle Patterson of runningbacks. Duke Johnson is truly a special back... he's not anoverhyped back coming out of the University of Miami like Lamar Miller because of the lineage of backs that the program has produced. No, Duke Johnson is at minimum twice the player that Lamar Miller was or will be.
    As usual, good stuff.
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    I like where you have Yeldon, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Drake bypass him. I'm excited to watch the race between Gurley and Gordon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-off-her-doll View Post
    I like where you have Yeldon, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Drake bypass him. I'm excited to watch the race between Gurley and Gordon.
    Yeldon has already been passed on the depth chart by the Freak Show known as Derrick Henry. It's not a stretch to think that Drake could pass him for the backup job.

    Yeldon's first problem is ball security. He's a fumble waiting to happen... and you can bet it's going to happen in a crucial moment.. inside the 10 yard line while the offense is going in to score and seize momentum of a big game. He's always had an upright running style, but Coach Burns usually remedies pad level very quickly with Bama's backs. The fact that he hasn't been able to yet with Yeldon causes concern for me. He's either uncoachable or incapable. Either way, it's not a good thing. His second problem is he runs hesitant now... doesn't explode through the hole like he did as a freshman. He's become awful in short yardage situations because he runs so upright.

    I thought it was a bad idea not to play Drake more against Auburn and Oklahoma last year. Both losses. A star was born in the Sugar Bowl (Henry) but nothing good or positive came from Drake inexplicably standing on the sidelines against Auburn.
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    My big concern with Duke Johnson is durability. He's not a big back but he runs hard, and he's taken a fair amount of punishment in his first couple of years in school. He's was knocked out of several games before he went down for the season against FSU with the leg injury. When he's healthy he's elite. And a football player through and through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fininpsl View Post
    My big concern with Duke Johnson is durability. He's not a big back but he runs hard, and he's taken a fair amount of punishment in his first couple of years in school. He's was knocked out of several games before he went down for the season against FSU with the leg injury. When he's healthy he's elite. And a football player through and through.

    That's true, although durability is always a question mark with RB's due to the nature of the position... and size isn't really a factor at all. Todd Gurley is knicked up more than Duke Johnson is.

    I think you have to look at what all a back is asked to do. Duke Johnson is asked to do a lot....returning kicks, contributing to the passing game out of the backfield, and obviously running between the tackles. He's a tough kid that runs hard.

    Bottom line is that he hasn't missed any games until leg injury, which would've ended any back's season. In my opinion he's proven durable. Injuries however, are going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    That's true, although durability is always a question mark with RB's due to the nature of the position... and size isn't really a factor at all. Todd Gurley is knicked up more than Duke Johnson is.

    I think you have to look at what all a back is asked to do. Duke Johnson is asked to do a lot....returning kicks, contributing to the passing game out of the backfield, and obviously running between the tackles. He's a tough kid that runs hard.

    Bottom line is that he hasn't missed any games until leg injury, which would've ended any back's season. In my opinion he's proven durable. Injuries however, are going to happen.

    He's definitely a tough running kid. I have zero reservations about his talent (most talented offensive player UM has had since Andre Johnson), and I know you are as spot on as anybody with your evaluations. And Duke WILL play hurt. With everything else I've heard through practice reports, and at game time though, I would knock him down a round or two because of the potential injury issues. Nothing I would discuss on an open public forum, but what I've seen in person on more than one occasion would give me pause on him in the NFL partly because I know he's willing to play when perhaps he shouldn't. I also could be dead wrong with what I think. It's just a personal opinion. Frankly, I hope I am wrong of course. I'm curious as to who you think he compares to in the NFL Slimm? Chris Johnson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fininpsl View Post
    I'm curious as to who you think he compares to in the NFL Slimm? Chris Johnson?
    Probably not as fast as Chris Johnson, but runs tougher. I like retro comparisons as I'm a little longer in the tooth... he reminds me of Napoleon Kaufman. Tiki Barber type back if you prefer a little more recent. He's a big play waiting to happen, especially in the passing game on screens, etc.
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