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    Aaron Donald

    The more I read about him, the more he sounds like Warren Sapp. I think if he's there at 19, Hickey may be tempted.
    I personally wouldnt have a problem with that.
    Hickey was part of the FO staff that built a SB defense. He may be looking for his own Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks etc.
    The way to beat the Pats is to get quick pressure on Brady up the middle without blitzing.
    Donald is relentless in that regard and would open things up for Wake, Vernon and Jordan
    I know we have good DT's, but we dont have disruptive DT's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlfin View Post
    The more I read about him, the more he sounds like Warren Sapp. I think if he's there at 19, Hickey may be tempted.
    I personally wouldnt have a problem with that.
    Hickey was part of the FO staff that built a SB defense. He may be looking for his own Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks etc.
    The way to beat the Pats is to get quick pressure on Brady up the middle without blitzing.
    Donald is relentless in that regard and would open things up for Wake, Vernon and Jordan
    I know we have good DT's, but we dont have disruptive DT's.
    I don't think he'll be there at 19, but because he is smaller than ideal, he could be. Of the players who might be there, I only have Shazier rated higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-off-her-doll View Post
    I don't think he'll be there at 19, but because he is smaller than ideal, he could be. Of the players who might be there, I only have Shazier rated higher.
    I agree. I do not think he will be there at 19, but run to the podium if he is.
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    I don't doubt his talent. But you don't draft a 3 tech when you have 2 very solid 3 techs and Earl Mitchell who would likely fit at 3 tech. We need a big body in there if we do anything, and I wouldn't because I think we have good developmental guys. Drafting him here just doesn't make any sense because we'd have to play guys out of position...we need to draft a guy who is an immediate upgrade and frankly even if he was we'd just be losing value from guys like Starks, Odrick and Mitchell. We should be taking value away from weaknesses, not strengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheBeard View Post
    I don't doubt his talent. But you don't draft a 3 tech when you have 2 very solid 3 techs and Earl Mitchell who would likely fit at 3 tech. We need a big body in there if we do anything, and I wouldn't because I think we have good developmental guys. Drafting him here just doesn't make any sense because we'd have to play guys out of position...we need to draft a guy who is an immediate upgrade and frankly even if he was we'd just be losing value from guys like Starks, Odrick and Mitchell. We should be taking value away from weaknesses, not strengths.
    I disagree. The draft isn't about plugging holes. It's about finding the best talents for your system. Starks is on a 2-year deal (and old), Mitchell shouldn't prevent you from drafting anyone, Odrick is on the last year of his contract. Almost every position of every team is in flux like this on a yearly basis, and that's why you don't bypass better players for lesser player that fill immediate needs. If all else is equal, by all means, address the immediate need, but if Shazier is off the board (which he very well could be), and Donald is on the board, there's a very small chance that you're going to get a better player than Donald at 19.
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    You NEVER turn away from drafting elite talent even if you have the position manned for the upcoming season. You have to think four dimensionally when you draft. Like off-her-doll said, you have guys moving on all that time at every position. Though we have 3 DT's set for 2014, we only have two under contract for 2015, and both have contracts where they are candidate to be cut to make cap space if there's a younger cheaper option to replace them. It's HARD to add elite players, and you are far better off drafting them than you are signing them in free agency. And there are fewer options at elite talent with the 19th pick than you'd have higher up in the draft. Donald is one of the few elite looking talents that looks like he might drop. Like others have said, if he's still there, I'd take him.
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    If he's there at 19 it's pretty much a no-brainer. Forget the DT depth; this kid is extremely talented. Dude gets to the QB at an insane rate for an interior player. Heck, he played a lot of DE at Pitt, you could play him there too. We did a decent job of patching holes in FA for the very reason of being able to go bpa. If he's there at 19, I'm pretty sure he'd be bpa.

    To me it'd be a different issue: if he's there at 19, you're probably going to be fielding calls for him via a trade up from someone like Seattle, Frisco, Denver, NewO, Philly. I think the question would be whether you'd rather move back and get more players or stay and draft a stud.
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    The sleeper 3 tech dt is carraun Reid of Princeton...I doubt he gets out of the 3rd round...
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    I'd love to draft Aaron Donald. He's explosive. He's someone who can collapse the pocket from the inside on pass plays. I don't remember ever having a disruptive DT like he potentially could be.
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    I haven't seen a mock where Dobson makes it to #19, but if he did Miami would be wise to take him. He gives you a lot of flexibility in that he can play DE and I don't think the Sapp comparison is too far off the mark. Dobson may be the most disruptive defensive player in the entire draft.
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