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    Quote Originally Posted by napsndreds View Post
    His accuracy is just off on the deep passes.. He doesn't seem to have any precision on the deep pass. if he wants to throw it far he jus puts a lot of power behind the throw, if he has time to throw..theres no anticipation of where wallace will be down field.. I guess thats something that both need to practice on , but tannehill should be able to look down field, and gauge how fast wallace is running and drop the ball where he is going to be when the ball gets there. right now he jus sees wallace open and is jus throwing it as far as he cans..then when he thinks about the throw he is under throwing it...thank god there hasn't been any crazy turnovers . I think he probably has a better chance completely these passes down field on the move and not standing in the pocket.
    The point is that you cant expect ANY Starting QB to be consistent on a 60 yard marker throw. You just cant. Just because you and I have all seen highlights of beautiful bombs for tds doesnt mean that is an expectation from deep throw to deep throw. Tannehill is simply average. He isnt terrible and he isnt the best. I think that the fans' perception is a little off on how good or bad Tannehill is with the deep ball.

    Part of the problem is that when a fan watches these huge 55+ throws to Wallace, people just expect that you can be consistently accurate with it. You cant, its not realistic and no QB is expected to be anymore or any less accurate with that particular throw. Hense, the reason why it is such a rare throw.

    Tannehill has both an average bomb pass and an average deep ball. There is a difference and it needs to be recognized as such.

    To the Bold. He has a better chance of completing 35-50 yard marker balls to the sideline. These crazy play designs A) require a crap O-line to hold up for more than 3 seconds. B) Position Wallace to the sidelines and require him to haul ass from the get go so then when the play is finally developed he is already 35+ yards down field before the ball is released.

    Im hoping Lazor either adds stunted routes to Wallaces go routes when running the long extended backfield action. You just cant run that kind of backfield action with wallace running a plain go route.
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    Larry Fitzgerald would have caught at least 75% of those. Wallace needs to watch how true #1 WR's would react to those throws an learn from them.
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    Couple thoughts...

    #1 Tannehill simply is not accustomed to the speed of Wallace.. Bess and Hartline are not exactly "speedsters"
    #2 There are times where he should step into his throws
    #3 in 2012 his deep accuracy was 72.9% last year it was 32.8% so he's clearly capable of being a GREAT deep ball thrower https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...e-florida-key/


    That PFF article is a good read in general.. but the main issue is TIMING Tannehill is late almost every one of those throws to Wallace.. As Marino said "once you see a defenders back you know he's beat" he's often late which causes him to over compensate and overthrow Wallace.. 72.9% as a rookie QB is quite an accomplishment. If you can do it some of the time, you can do it all of the time. I really look for him to improve in that department in 2014.
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    All you guys expecting Wallace to fight for he ball haven't been paying attention to his career. He did bring a couple of those under throws in this video so, he did make up for some of the bad balls Tannehill threw to him. In this video, tannehill was awful on each throw. Wallace made some of those catches so, in this video, he made some plays. Tannehill made none. Some of you guys expect Wallace to make RT look good and hold him to that standard, but give RT a pass? if this video is the evidence, RT was bad on each and every play. Wallace could've laid out on a couple plays but, he never makes a bad play(in this video). If he makes those catches he went above and beyond and made up for RTs mediocrity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayFin327 View Post
    Larry Fitzgerald would have caught at least 75% of those. Wallace needs to watch how true #1 WR's would react to those throws an learn from them.
    Yeah because he wouldn't have been as far downfield as Wallace and the throw would've been easier to make for RT. I will admit though that Fitz will fight for the ball more than Wallace but, we knew that before we signed him. Why is everyone expecting Wallace to be a fighter for the ball? He wasn't that in Pittsburgh why are we expecting him to do it? We all know he was bought here for one reason.......Speed. Tannehill has to get in tuned with his speed. Tannehill takes the blame for the throws we just saw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kizzaboo View Post
    The point is that you cant expect ANY Starting QB to be consistent on a 60 yard marker throw. You just cant. Just because you and I have all seen highlights of beautiful bombs for tds doesnt mean that is an expectation from deep throw to deep throw. Tannehill is simply average. He isnt terrible and he isnt the best. I think that the fans' perception is a little off on how good or bad Tannehill is with the deep ball.

    Part of the problem is that when a fan watches these huge 55+ throws to Wallace, people just expect that you can be consistently accurate with it. You cant, its not realistic and no QB is expected to be anymore or any less accurate with that particular throw. Hense, the reason why it is such a rare throw.

    Tannehill has both an average bomb pass and an average deep ball. There is a difference and it needs to be recognized as such.

    To the Bold. He has a better chance of completing 35-50 yard marker balls to the sideline. These crazy play designs A) require a crap O-line to hold up for more than 3 seconds. B) Position Wallace to the sidelines and require him to haul ass from the get go so then when the play is finally developed he is already 35+ yards down field before the ball is released.

    Im hoping Lazor either adds stunted routes to Wallaces go routes when running the long extended backfield action. You just cant run that kind of backfield action with wallace running a plain go route.
    It's not about precision passing with the deep balls. It's about putting it in the appropriate catching radius and making sure you're anticipating what the receiver is doing. Tanny does not do that very well when it comes to Wallace. The other thing is Wallace doesn't typically extend well for the ball, but Tannehill was so completely off on most of those throws it wouldn't have mattered.
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    Tanny is our QB, a leader, and plays with a lot of passion. Unfortunately he didn't play all of his college years as a QB. We will see this year if he is able to improve on the long ball, as that is one of his biggest weaknesses.
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    Wallace doesn't have the frame, hands, or leaping ability of the greats to make up for the missed throws. That video does not show the full story either, plenty more were missed in the season. He smoked revis with safety help in a bucs game where we needed a score. I love Tannehill and trust he can work on his "timing" not his arm strength which is fine. Thats the issue, not his arm muscle. Timing and when to trust your WR to burn the D.

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    Wow. A lot of excuses for Tannehill. There were a lot of plays where Wallace was Wide Open. Wide Open! Stop it fellas
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    damn after I watch these they look SO MUCH closer than I remember. Its literally a fraction of a second to early or to late. If I was RT (and im not) I'd just throw that bitch as far as I can, Wallace has the speed to go and get it. Rather over throw than under throw.
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