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Thread: What went wrong: Lamar Miller

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    Miller is better than Moreno. I don't see any scenario that he isn't our #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarnics13 View Post
    Miller is better than Moreno. I don't see any scenario that he isn't our #1
    I'd be willing to bet that Moreno rolls into the season opener as the starter.



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    Blocking. Unless Miller learned something this offseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFCMiamiEast View Post
    As much bad rep that the offensive line received last season for giving up a franchise record 58 sacks in just 16 games, they were even worse in holding up blocks for Lamar and Co. That really says a lot, their run protection was excruciatingly horrific last season. The jury is still out on Lamar. With the same offensive line as 2013, Lamar could go out the way David Carr did, lots of pro potential that was all wasted behind historically bad offensive lines. I'm hoping he will take advantage of a RB2 role in Lazor's reportedly run heavy offense behind Moreno, and an upgraded offensive line.
    This is a good point. Our philosophy on offense is to take what the defense gives us and Miller doesn't get as many carries as he would like because our passing game doesn't have enough success vs stacked boxes, which is partially due to Millers own ****ty pass protection. We pass to set up the run so if you're thinking about drafting a Miami RB for fantasy your first question should be how effective do you think our passing game will be. The more effective our passing game is the more effective our running game will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarnics13 View Post
    Miller is better than Moreno. I don't see any scenario that he isn't our #1
    Moreno is the more complete back... Miller is a liability also in pass coverage which this regime deems important.
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    I've followed Lamar since Miami Killian. Kid has always gone down on first contact far too often.
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    The line can't block everyone... He needs to get stronger. Getting tripped up and brought down by an arm of a falling DT is not the greatest thing for an NFL caliber RB to be brought down by. IMP


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    I'm not the biggest Lamar Miller fan, but I do like the kid. He is a scat back, pure and simple.

    Last season he actually performed well. It WAS the OL that held him back, just like it was for Reggio Bush. I have a lot of faith in Benton to make this new OL much better than the one we had last year. Albert isn't a good run blocker, but he is much better than anyone we had at LT last year even at run blocking. On the downs that Shelley Smith plays, he is an excellent run blocker, but he he does broadcast run play when he is on the field. Pouncey should be playing with a chip on his shoulder. I don't know how good our run blocking will be, but it should be improved.

    The issue facing Lamar Miller is passing sets. In Lazor's offense the RB is required to pass protect and catch screen passes and short passes all over the field. Neither of these things are currently strengths of Miller, and look tailor made for Moreno. I will b surprised if Miller gets more snaps than Moreno.

    What Miller needs to do this offseason is work on pass protection, pass catching, and once the camps srart, route running. If he can become good at these things, he can win the starting spot.

    I expect us to draft a RB in round 3 or 4, with guys like Bishop Sankey, Lache Seastrunk and some small school prospects being the most likely target. Hickey will be looking for his next Doug Martin or Ray Rice type guy. Lazor would prefer the next Thurman Thomas or Marshall Faulk. I think we will draft something in between stylistically, but probably not hall of fame caliber ... that would be extremely lucky.

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    With the predictable offense and bad OL play, I don't think we know what any RB can do on Miami. Hopefully, the new OC mixes it up much better - thus giving the OL a chance to set up for plays. If that happens, then, we can see what we have.
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    My dad has always said, like a broken record, if you give Lamar Miller a hole, he's going to break for a big gain. And he does, he's extremely quick on that first burst off the block. The problem is, that hole is hardly there.

    Really interested in seeing how things play out. We could have a seriously threatening running game if holes can be made.
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