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Thread: What went wrong: Lamar Miller

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    It's like Tannehill. A handful of sacks were on him but mostly the oline. Same as Miller, some poor runs but mostly the oline.
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    some people think he's the "lightning" to the "thunder". if he was that quick, i'd like to see him make a play for himself, whether there's a hole or not. Just make something happen. Don't think i've ever seen Miller make a play, when there's no hole. If you are saying you need a hole so big, you can back a truck up into it, then he's really worthless.
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    The article's author must be drunk or put the wrong name in the article. Lamar Miller is an average talent, not sure where the lightning or thunder comes from. He got his chance, he showed what he's capable of, let's move on.
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    IMO, nothing went wrong with Miller, other than not having anyone who could run block worth a damn on the entire team. Cog was the only one who got an above average grade of +1.2 which is nothing. Everyone else sucked, including TE's and Pouncey. I focus on the "Big Uglies" and have never seen a worse run blocking team in Miami.

    I was surprised at how well he did, as well as DT with this disaster blocking in front of them. Anyone who thinks Moreno would have done better is kidding themselves. I fully expect him to be better than Moreno this year.

    However, I do not yet see answers on the OL in run blocking. Albert is below average, and Miller should buy Shelly dinner every day of camp, as he is a Beast in run block, and will be a huge help IF he can become average in pass protect.

    Last year, Miller and DT had nowhere to run, and it's silly to judge him on that. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southbeach 2 View Post
    IMO, nothing went wrong with Miller, other than not having anyone who could run block worth a damn on the entire team. Cog was the only one who got an above average grade of +1.2 which is nothing. Everyone else sucked, including TE's and Pouncey. I focus on the "Big Uglies" and have never seen a worse run blocking team in Miami.

    I was surprised at how well he did, as well as DT with this disaster blocking in front of them. Anyone who thinks Moreno would have done better is kidding themselves. I fully expect him to be better than Moreno this year.

    However, I do not yet see answers on the OL in run blocking. Albert is below average, and Miller should buy Shelly dinner every day of camp, as he is a Beast in run block, and will be a huge help IF he can become average in pass protect.

    Last year, Miller and DT had nowhere to run, and it's silly to judge him on that. JMO
    Obviously anyone can see that Moreno has the edge in blocking, but in pure carrying the rock it's not really even close. Speed, elusiveness, quickness......no competition.
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    nowhere to go, but still managed 4.0 yards a carry? seems to me, they just didn't run enough. But just by watching miller, he's nothing special. Maybe by having a RB that can compete with Miller, will help him get better. Because we all know thomas didn't push miller at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarnics13 View Post
    Obviously anyone can see that Moreno has the edge in blocking, but in pure carrying the rock it's not really even close. Speed, elusiveness, quickness......no competition.
    I don't see the difference in pass protect either. Moreno gave up the same pressure as Miller in 2/3rds of pass block plays. Moreno cannot break big plays but, was VG with Peyton in being steady, and nothing great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truedolfan57 View Post
    nowhere to go, but still managed 4.0 yards a carry? seems to me, they just didn't run enough. But just by watching miller, he's nothing special. Maybe by having a RB that can compete with Miller, will help him get better. Because we all know thomas didn't push miller at all.
    If you keep running into a brick wall, the only thing that makes it feel better is when you stop. I disagree, and think Miller has Bush like skills in running the ball. We shall see.
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    The article's author must be drunk or put the wrong name in the article. Lamar Miller is an average talent, not sure where the lightning or thunder comes from. He got his chance, he showed what he's capable of, let's move on.
    Yeah, he "had his chance" as a rookie with only 51 total snaps (in which he averaged 5.0 YPC), and went in 2013 with a historically atrocious offensive line, and still managed to average 4.3 YPC (above average among all lead backs with 300 + snaps). I'm not saying he is going to be Miami's undisputed feature back for the next decade, but the jury is far from being closed on Lamar. If anything, all he's been is wasted potential, anyone manning the RB position in Miami was set up to fail in 2013. He deserves a chance behind Moreno to play behind an upgraded offensive line this upcoming season.



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    I'm not buying all the adjustments. We averaged 4.1 yards per carry, which is the same we surrendered even though everyone bemoaned how awful the run defense performed. The running game was fine in many games other than we stupidly abandoned it. Rushing attempts cleanse the entire offense. Our pass protection would have improved if we'd simply run the ball a sufficient number of times.

    As another Canes fan posted, Miller is the same guy dating to Killian. The mistake was believing he could do it on his own. He's a complimentary back or someone to split carries evenly. If you ask him to carry the load all of his weaknesses show up.

    It was somewhat amusing last offseason when all the Reggie Bush haters wanted to pretend Miller would be equally effective in short yardage and stressed situations as he was as a rookie carrying the ball on first and ten in change up mode. My only surprise was how poorly Miller performed in the handful of occasions he burst into open field. That was money as a Cane. Last season he seemingly got nervous and made too many decisions, along with tightening up. I think that will improve markedly in 2014.
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