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Thread: Abramson: Source says Dolphins like Cyrus Kouandjio

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    Quote Originally Posted by gafin View Post
    All these mock drafts saying Martin or Mosely, must be too close for comfort, so a smokescreen was needed.

    Those are the two names I see the most on the mock drafts. Martin will probably be gone though IMO.
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    Smokescreen. He does not fit our scheme. Moving Misi to MLB is another smokescreen. Interest in WR another smokescreen.

    We are looking at Mosely or Shazier LB. Also interest in TE Ebron or Amaro. OT may happen if MArtin or Lewan drop. After that maybe a CB or a S but I doubt it.
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    Wow, you mean we might actually pursue a guy who was rated higher earlier than he is today? What a concept. Jeff Ireland did that perhaps once in his life and stumbled onto Reggie Bush. You can argue that Grimes is a second example.

    Throw away the fear. That's what I do when I bet college sports based on preseason ratings. A basketball team that was rated 50th among 330 starting the years gets off to a rocky start. Everyone sours on them. The power ratings plunge them down to 180 or 220. But that's when the value kicks in. The talent level really does equate to 50th and you take advantage once they naturally return to their rightful level, long before the power ratings catch up.

    No different with Cyrus. As hoops emphasized, he was an elite prospect less than a year ago. Preferred above Fluker virtually unanimous.

    Who cares if others have soured on him? As long as the injury concern is overblown this is the type of situation that is ideal. I posted a link in the draft forum a few hours ago on very early 2014 mock drafts immediately following the 2013 draft. Cyrus is near the top in all of those versions.

    Besides, while some Alabama kids may not fully pan out, their offensive line is so special in their dominant years that you have to give those guys the benefit of a doubt, when top notch athletic ability is part of the package. That Notre Dame defensive front seven was not only effective and tough but it had lots of highly rated guys. The Tide made them look pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awsi Dooger View Post
    Wow, you mean we might actually pursue a guy who was rated higher earlier than he is today? What a concept. Jeff Ireland did that perhaps once in his life and stumbled onto Reggie Bush. You can argue that Grimes is a second example.

    Throw away the fear. That's what I do when I bet college sports based on preseason ratings. A basketball team that was rated 50th among 330 starting the years gets off to a rocky start. Everyone sours on them. The power ratings plunge them down to 180 or 220. But that's when the value kicks in. The talent level really does equate to 50th and you take advantage once they naturally return to their rightful level, long before the power ratings catch up.

    No different with Cyrus. As hoops emphasized, he was an elite prospect less than a year ago. Preferred above Fluker virtually unanimous.

    Who cares if others have soured on him? As long as the injury concern is overblown this is the type of situation that is ideal. I posted a link in the draft forum a few hours ago on very early 2014 mock drafts immediately following the 2013 draft. Cyrus is near the top in all of those versions.

    Besides, while some Alabama kids may not fully pan out, their offensive line is so special in their dominant years that you have to give those guys the benefit of a doubt, when top notch athletic ability is part of the package. That Notre Dame defensive front seven was not only effective and tough but it had lots of highly rated guys. The Tide made them look pathetic.
    I can't find that link that you posted in the draft forum, where is it?

    ps I found it.
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    If our new GM is leaking our draft plans already...can we just go ahead and fire him now? Anyone that believes any of this is gullible as hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nublar7 View Post
    Perhaps they are looking at trading down with Cleveland or San Francisco at the end of the 1st round.

    Also possible the Dolphins are using Abramson to blow some smoke.
    I was thinking misinformation as well.

    I'd rather see the phins draft Su'a Filo @ 19 than Kouandjio 50. JuWaun James (UTn) at 50 would be better than Cyrus.
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    Miami Dolphins Draft Strategy Leaked?

    • The Dolphins are set on drafting a right tackle in round 1. They rate Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews, and Taylor Lewan highly. Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reported on the Dolphins' interest in Lewan last week, so this is a second report saying that despite "character issues," the Dolphins are willing to draft Lewan at #19.
    • After those 3, the Dolphins' rankings of OTs gets interesting. Cyrus Kouandjio apparently has a first round grade from the Dolphins and is rated ahead of Zach Martin, whom the Dolphins see as a guard, and Morgan Moses, who played under new Dolphins offensive coordinator Bill Lazor when Lazor coached the University of Virginia football team a couple of years ago. If true, this means the Dolphins are not one of the teams whose physicians reportedly failed Kouandijo after his physical at the NFL combine. For what it's worth, renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews recently wrote a letterinsisting Kouandijo's knees were fine. The Dolphins reportedly have concerns about Moses' "work ethic," which Lazor would know a lot about after being Moses' head coach.
    • The Dolphins have no intention of drafting a starting linebacker, and they instead intend to move Koa Misi to middle linebacker, Dannell Ellerbe to weakside linebacker, and Phillip Wheeler to strongside linebacker. It's been reported before by the Miami Herald that the Dolphins have been pondering playing "musical chairs" at the linebacker spot with players switching positions (click here for an explanation for the different linebacker spots), so this counts as a second report backing that up. However, despite trying to signD'Qwell Jackson in free agency, the Dolphins are allegedly not interested in drafting a starting linebacker in the draft and would rather see if position switches improve production.
    • The Dolphins plan on drafting an offensive guard in round 2, unless a wide receiver like Kelvin Benjamin or Brandin Cooks fell to round 2. Otherwise, they want to address wide receiver and running back in the mid-to-later rounds. Armando Salguero of the Miami Heraldhas reported before that the Dolphins see running back as a mid-to-later round need, but this is the first report of the Dolphins wanting to address WR in rounds 2 or 3 of the draft.
    • Here's an exact quote that will make ct1361 dance on his desk at home: "If Miami gets a receiver as high as the second round, it could mean the end for receiver Brian Hartline after the 2014 season, the source said." Hartline's salary in 2014 is guaranteed, but he becomes a viable cap casualty after the 2014 season.
    • Brandon Gibson is reportedly safe as the Dolphins' WR3, likely because his current contract is so reasonable (paying him 1/2 as much as Hartline and 1/4 as much as Mike Wallace per year). However, if the Dolphins draft a later round WR, the rookie would compete withRishard Matthews because the Dolphins have had discussions about replacing Matthews and receiver Armon Binns.
    • The Dolphins intend to go offense-heavy early in the draft, but they're looking at cornerback and safety as later round needs. They apparently also like Alabama defensive end Ed Stinson who is projected as a mid-round draft pick.

    http://www.chatsports.com/miami-dolp...ked-2-9692572#
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny6813 View Post
    • The Dolphins are set on drafting a right tackle in round 1. They rate Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews, and Taylor Lewan highly. Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reported on the Dolphins' interest in Lewan last week, so this is a second report saying that despite "character issues," the Dolphins are willing to draft Lewan at #19.
    • After those 3, the Dolphins' rankings of OTs gets interesting. Cyrus Kouandjio apparently has a first round grade from the Dolphins and is rated ahead of Zach Martin, whom the Dolphins see as a guard, and Morgan Moses, who played under new Dolphins offensive coordinator Bill Lazor when Lazor coached the University of Virginia football team a couple of years ago. If true, this means the Dolphins are not one of the teams whose physicians reportedly failed Kouandijo after his physical at the NFL combine. For what it's worth, renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews recently wrote a letterinsisting Kouandijo's knees were fine. The Dolphins reportedly have concerns about Moses' "work ethic," which Lazor would know a lot about after being Moses' head coach.
    • The Dolphins have no intention of drafting a starting linebacker, and they instead intend to move Koa Misi to middle linebacker, Dannell Ellerbe to weakside linebacker, and Phillip Wheeler to strongside linebacker. It's been reported before by the Miami Herald that the Dolphins have been pondering playing "musical chairs" at the linebacker spot with players switching positions (click here for an explanation for the different linebacker spots), so this counts as a second report backing that up. However, despite trying to signD'Qwell Jackson in free agency, the Dolphins are allegedly not interested in drafting a starting linebacker in the draft and would rather see if position switches improve production.
    • The Dolphins plan on drafting an offensive guard in round 2, unless a wide receiver like Kelvin Benjamin or Brandin Cooks fell to round 2. Otherwise, they want to address wide receiver and running back in the mid-to-later rounds. Armando Salguero of the Miami Heraldhas reported before that the Dolphins see running back as a mid-to-later round need, but this is the first report of the Dolphins wanting to address WR in rounds 2 or 3 of the draft.
    • Here's an exact quote that will make ct1361 dance on his desk at home: "If Miami gets a receiver as high as the second round, it could mean the end for receiver Brian Hartline after the 2014 season, the source said." Hartline's salary in 2014 is guaranteed, but he becomes a viable cap casualty after the 2014 season.
    • Brandon Gibson is reportedly safe as the Dolphins' WR3, likely because his current contract is so reasonable (paying him 1/2 as much as Hartline and 1/4 as much as Mike Wallace per year). However, if the Dolphins draft a later round WR, the rookie would compete withRishard Matthews because the Dolphins have had discussions about replacing Matthews and receiver Armon Binns.
    • The Dolphins intend to go offense-heavy early in the draft, but they're looking at cornerback and safety as later round needs. They apparently also like Alabama defensive end Ed Stinson who is projected as a mid-round draft pick.

    http://www.chatsports.com/miami-dolp...ked-2-9692572#
    I read that article earlier and apparently Hartline did too.

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    Trade down if we want him, do not.. DO NOT take him at 19.
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