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Thread: 2015 Preliminary List of Prospects by School

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    Isn't Blake Bell of Oklahoma their QB? Not a TE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phinfan33 View Post
    Isn't Blake Bell of Oklahoma their QB? Not a TE.
    He has changed positions, moved to TE. Trevor Knight I'm pretty sure is locked in as their starter this year, he looked amazing in their bowl game against Bama. He's a guy I look forward to watching.

    Here's a story on his position switch:
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...r-transferring

    Sign: Daryn Colledge
    Draft: 1. LB Ryan Shazier 2. OL Joel Bitonio 3. WR Donte Moncrief 4. OL Brandon Thomas 5. OT Laurent Duvernay Tardif 6. RB Bo Oliver 7. TBD

    LT Albert LG Smith C Pouncey RG Colledge RT Bitonio
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    How far into the process have you gotten? I watch 5 games on each prospect. Finished RB, and OL, working on WR now. I'm saving QB for last, and so far I have 4 first round grades on the OL and 2 on RB's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by futurescout View Post
    How far into the process have you gotten? I watch 5 games on each prospect. Finished RB, and OL, working on WR now. I'm saving QB for last, and so far I have 4 first round grades on the OL and 2 on RB's.
    Hahaha well...I've made a list... I've got a busy week so just looked at a couple of guys to get a feel for who I like. I watched a lot of Ogbeuhi before he decided to return to school and he probably would've been my #2 tackle this year. Watched Cameron Erving a fair bit too, really needs to clean up his technique but if he does that he could be a top 10 pick. Schreff I've heard great things about and I'm sure he'll get a first round grade out of me. Peat I'll have to wait and see on. I make criteria for each position so I'm always tweaking the grading and the traits I'm grading, so it takes me a fair bit of time to get it right, especially for position groups that I don't have a set system for yet. Ideally I'll have a top 50 together in a couple months, top 32 at the very least.

    I hate saying anything too early in the process because as I watch more guys I tend to get a better feel for them and reassess, but my initial impressions of the 1 game I've watched of each of them is I really like Melvin Gordon, Andrus Peat was unimpressive, USC DT Leonard Williams could be in the top 5 mix with a solid year, Vic Beasley who I watched before last draft was thoroughly unimpressive (albeit this was me watching early in the process) and look like solely a pass rush specialist, like the physicallity of Denzel Perryman. That's all I got from some brief watching, very likely to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheBeard View Post
    Hahaha well...I've made a list... I've got a busy week so just looked at a couple of guys to get a feel for who I like. I watched a lot of Ogbeuhi before he decided to return to school and he probably would've been my #2 tackle this year. Watched Cameron Erving a fair bit too, really needs to clean up his technique but if he does that he could be a top 10 pick. Schreff I've heard great things about and I'm sure he'll get a first round grade out of me. Peat I'll have to wait and see on. I make criteria for each position so I'm always tweaking the grading and the traits I'm grading, so it takes me a fair bit of time to get it right, especially for position groups that I don't have a set system for yet. Ideally I'll have a top 50 together in a couple months, top 32 at the very least.
    Hate to burst your bubble, but I gave Ogbuehi a 3rd round grade. Out of 5 games, I can count on one hand how many times he got inside hands in the run or pass. He's a pretty good athlete but terrible with his hands. Soft. No movement in the run game. Lacks any nastiness whatsoever. Lacks the hand use to protect the edge, lacks the size/strength to anchor against bull rushers, and oversets too often. A few games (notably LSU) he went against a mush rush so he basically did nothing. And they run the ball about 2 times a game. I look at him as a swing tackle with added value that he can play all 4 positions (started at RG in 2012). Will be overdrafted.

    Peat received a top 5 grade for me. Not the best feet in the world, but makes up for it with outstanding length. In five games I saw him give up only two pressures, both for sacks, when he overset and gave up the inside shoulder. Also lost on 1 bull rush vs Tuitt when he got up high and didn't keep inside hands. But he still anchored enough not to give up the pressure. My only concern is his balance. He spends wayyyyyy to much time on the ground in the run game. Especially vs USC in 2013. He is not a good 2nd level blocker because of this. But you're drafting him to be a pass protector, not a 2nd level blocker. He has the potential to be an All-Pro Left Tackle for a very long time.

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    I don't think Erving is a Franchise Left Tackle. He oversets way too often, and doesn't anchor well. He still got a 1st round grade but not top 10. I like Scherff more, but he is exclusively a right tackle. Lacks the feet to mirror speed rushers at the NFL. But he's a nasty son of a bitch in the run game. You want him at Right Tackle to generate movement. He'll also overset and give a two way go as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by futurescout View Post
    Hate to burst your bubble, but I gave Ogbuehi a 3rd round grade. Out of 5 games, I can count on one hand how many times he got inside hands in the run or pass. He's a pretty good athlete but terrible with his hands. Soft. No movement in the run game. Lacks any nastiness whatsoever. Lacks the hand use to protect the edge, lacks the size/strength to anchor against bull rushers, and oversets too often. A few games (notably LSU) he went against a mush rush so he basically did nothing. And they run the ball about 2 times a game. I look at him as a swing tackle with added value that he can play all 4 positions (started at RG in 2012). Will be overdrafted.

    Peat received a top 5 grade for me. Not the best feet in the world, but makes up for it with outstanding length. In five games I saw him give up only two pressures, both for sacks, when he overset and gave up the inside shoulder. Also lost on 1 bull rush vs Tuitt when he got up high and didn't keep inside hands. But he still anchored enough not to give up the pressure. My only concern is his balance. He spends wayyyyyy to much time on the ground in the run game. Especially vs USC in 2013. He is not a good 2nd level blocker because of this. But you're drafting him to be a pass protector, not a 2nd level blocker. He has the potential to be an All-Pro Left Tackle for a very long time.

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    I don't think Erving is a Franchise Left Tackle. He oversets way too often, and doesn't anchor well. He still got a 1st round grade but not top 10. I like Scherff more, but he is exclusively a right tackle. Lacks the feet to mirror speed rushers at the NFL. But he's a nasty son of a bitch in the run game. You want him at Right Tackle to generate movement. He'll also overset and give a two way go as well.
    You're not bursting any bubble haha...I don't have anything I watched in writing yet and it's a learning process. But I recall that I really like how Ogbuehi uses his length and he's a very quality athlete. Chances are I'll disagree with you on him, but not until I get a fresh look at everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheBeard View Post
    You're not bursting any bubble haha...I don't have anything I watched in writing yet and it's a learning process. But I recall that I really like how Ogbuehi uses his length and he's a very quality athlete. Chances are I'll disagree with you on him, but not until I get a fresh look at everyone.
    No disputing his athleticism, I just don't really like the player. He gets abused by Dee Ford as well, ended up costing A&M the game. I'm hoping to have a top 25 done by the end of the week.
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    WR Chris Harper, Cal*
    WR Bryce Treggs, Cal*
    WR Charone Peake, Clemson* - recovering from torn ACL
    WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Eastern Illinois*
    DT Eddie Goldman, Florida St*
    WR Deon Long, Maryland
    OT Erick Flowers, Miami*
    CB Tracy Howard, Miami*
    SS Deon Bush, Miami*
    G Jon Feliciano, Miami
    CB KeiVarae Russell, Notre Dame*
    WR Sterling Shepard, Oklahoma*

    Just glancing through the list, BTW there's quite a few duplicates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMadison29 View Post
    WR Chris Harper, Cal*
    WR Bryce Treggs, Cal*
    WR Charone Peake, Clemson* - recovering from torn ACL
    WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Eastern Illinois*
    DT Eddie Goldman, Florida St*
    WR Deon Long, Maryland
    OT Erick Flowers, Miami*
    CB Tracy Howard, Miami*
    SS Deon Bush, Miami*
    G Jon Feliciano, Miami
    CB KeiVarae Russell, Notre Dame*
    WR Sterling Shepard, Oklahoma*

    Just glancing through the list, BTW there's quite a few duplicates.
    Awesome appreciate it, and ya I've noticed that...some guys get listed at 2 positions which I think is the main issue. The more I look through it the more I'll get that sort of stuff sorted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by futurescout View Post
    No disputing his athleticism, I just don't really like the player. He gets abused by Dee Ford as well, ended up costing A&M the game. I'm hoping to have a top 25 done by the end of the week.
    Looking forward to seeing it..I'll definitely watch that Auburn game first too when I get down to it.
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