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Thread: Slimm's 2015 Outside Linebackers

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    Slimm's 2015 Outside Linebackers

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    1. A.J. Johnson / Tennessee / 6'2", 243

    2. Jake Ryan / Michigan / 6'3", 240

    3. Chi Chi Ariguzo / Northwestern / 6'3", 235

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    4. Mark Nzeocha / Wyoming / 6'3", 240

    5. Quayshawn Nealy / Georgia Tech / 6'1", 232

    6. Paul Dawson / TCU / 6'2", 230

    7. Dyshawn Davis / Syracuse / 6'2", 220

    8. Derek Akunne / North Texas / 6'0", 244

    9. Lynden Trail / Norfolk St. / 6'6", 250 (Rush)
    (4 Star recruit originally committed to Florida. Some folks close to the program thought he was going to be the next Jevon Kearse.)

    10. Matt Robinson / Maryland / 6'3", 240

    11. Qushaun Lee / Arkansas St. / 5'11", 225

    12. James Vaughters / Stanford / 6'2", 254

    13. Mike Hull / Penn St. / 6'0", 227

    14. Tony Washington / Oregon / 6'3", 243 (Rush)

    15. Maurice Falls / East Carolina / 6'2", 247

    16. Xzavier Dickson / Alabama / 6'3", 265 (Rush)

    17. Efrem Oliphant / Houston / 6'1", 230

    18. Jordan Hicks / Texas / 6'2", 238

    19. Reshard Cliett / USF / 6'2", 220

    20. Serderius Bryant / Ole Miss / 5'9", 220

    21. Nick Temple / Cincinnati / 5'10", 220

    22. Junior Sylvestre / Toledo / 6'0", 220

    23. Vince Buhagiar / San Jose St. / 6'3", 237

    24. Kyle Woestmann / Vanderbilt / 6'3", 252 (Rush)

    25. David Mayo / Texas St. / 6'2", 228

    26. Josh Keyes / Boston College / 6'2", 225








    Underclassman:

    1. Leonard Floyd / Georgia / 6'4", 230 (Rush)

    2. Jordan Jenkins / Georgia / 6'3", 246 (Rush)

    3. Nick Vigil / Utah St. / 6'2", 230
    (Reminds me of a young Keith Brooking coming out of Georgia Tech)

    4. Kyler Fackrell / Utah St. / 6'4", 245 (Rush)

    5. Benardrick McKinney / Mississippi St. / 6'4", 250

    6. Tyler Matakevich / Temple / 6'1", 235

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    7. Shaq Thompson / Washington / 6'2", 225

    8. Eric Striker / Oklahoma / 6'0", 225

    9. Casanova McKinzy / Auburn / 6'2", 245

    10. Steve Longa / Rutgers / 6'1", 225

    11. Cory James / Colorado St. / 6'0", 240

    12. Denzel Devall / Alabama / 6'2", 250 (Rush)

    13. Dominique Tovell / ULL / 6'2", 248

    14. T.T. Barber / MTSU / 6'1", 220

    15. Ejiro Ederaine / Fresno St. / 6'2", 225

    16. Steven Daniels / Boston College / 6'0", 257

    17. Terrance Smith / Florida St. / 6'3", 220

    18. Denzel Nkemdiche / Ole Miss / 5'11", 215
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    Looking at some of those names, I can't help but think of that damn Key & Peele sketch...
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    Shaq Thompson is phenomonal. I'm surprised you don't have him higher among the underclassmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Shaq Thompson is phenomonal. I'm surprised you don't have him higher among the underclassmen.

    I actually really like Thompson, reminds me a lot of Daryl Washington coming out of TCU. He actually has the athletic skills to play defensive back, which is exactly how he began his career. Excellent special teams player. Many of these collegiate offenses are going to start you out in your nickel package anyway, and it's becoming even more prevelant at the next level too. I think Thompson is the type of LB that I would covet as a true 3 down linebacker in the mold of an Arthur Brown, Daryl Washington, Lavonte David, Ryan Shazier.

    I have Thompson graded as a 2nd rounder in the #45 overall range as we speak. He's a terrific player, as are some of these guys ahead of him. Although most of them are going to be outside, or weakside "rush" linebackers in defenses that prefer to utilize an odd front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    I actually really like Thompson, reminds me a lot of Daryl Washington coming out of TCU. He actually has the athletic skills to play defensive back, which is exactly how he began his career. Excellent special teams player. Many of these collegiate offenses are going to start you out in your nickel package anyway, and it's becoming even more prevelant at the next level too. I think Thompson is the type of LB that I would covet as a true 3 down linebacker in the mold of an Arthur Brown, Daryl Washington, Lavonte David, Ryan Shazier.

    I have Thompson graded as a 2nd rounder in the #45 overall range as we speak. He's a terrific player, as are some of these guys ahead of him. Although most of them are going to be outside, or weakside "rush" linebackers in defenses that prefer to utilize an odd front.
    That sounds right.

    It's tough to see linebacker as anything but a dying position in the NFL. Or at the very least a changing one. Offenses are spreading the field, putting defenses in nickel packages more than their base package, and going into hurry-up to interfere with a defense's substitutions.

    The very first thing the NFL needs out of a top linebacker prospect is for that linebacker to be a good nickel coverage/blitzing linebacker with the kind of speed and agility you would expect from that kind of specialist, and from there they just build the guy into the base package.

    Shaq Thompson is probably a poster child for that trend. As you say, the way he's used and the way he plays, he's practically another defensive back...a run-and-hit safety. That's why he excels in kick and punt coverage so much. Fearless. But he's also good in coverage, especially man. I like his overall viciousness, physicality, trigger. The physical change of direction, agility and acceleration skills are near to ideal too.

    Seems like every draft you can almost count on one hand the number of linebacker prospects you find that you think could play 1000 snaps a season at the next level. And the number of those that could actually play WELL for 1000 snaps a season, even lower. That's what I mean by dying position. If Shaq Thompson comes to be seen as one of those guys I think he could go high like Mosley or Shazier.
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    The guy I have some trouble with is Kyler Fackrell.

    You have him as a rush linebacker and I think that's correct. But when evaluated as a pass rusher, are we really seeing a GREAT pass rusher? Because if we're not, then whatever multiple style team he goes to will keep trying to replace him with the newest line of Barkevious Mingo dolls to hit the market, or the team he's on will convert to a 4-3 and have no place for him because he's not a Von Miller and there's no use trying to build your defense around him as if he is a Von Miller.

    Basically we might be looking at a guy like Jarret Johnson. You can win a lot of games with Jarret Johnson, but teams don't necessarily covet Jarret Johnson...and Jarret Johnson's fate is controlled by defensive coordinators who either build their schemes according to their rigid beliefs or according to needle-moving chess pieces on the defense, which aren't Jarret Johnson.
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    There's very few great pass rushers in college football...especially when they're only sophomores. You only need one hand to count those. I wouldn't describe Fackrell as a great pass rusher. Big kid that's fast, athletic, tough, relentless, and durable. Probably an underrated prospect out there right now if I were to guess.

    I think he's a tenacious pass rusher. He's equally adept at playing the run and rushing the passer. I see it on tape a lot where they're disinterested in the former and the defense suffers as a whole because of it.

    Utah St. has only been good on defense for 2 years, largely due to Kyler Fackrell. Out of all the "abilities" that a player can have, to a coach the most important one is availability. Fackrell has proven extremely durable his first two years.

    The kid never stays blocked. He understands leverage and how to disengage. Although he's not very experienced yet in coverage. Coach Wells likes to use him essentially as an overhanging or "force" defender at the line of scrimmage.

    The interesting thing about Kyler Fackrell is that he's an offensive convert similar to Anthony Barr. Still has a lot of upside as a pass rusher. I know Tennessee better be ready for him week 1. Because they don't have Jawuan James there anymore and he's going to try to wreck 'em. I'll bet high that he makes 2 or 3 plays on defense that change the complexion of that football game.

    I certainly agree with your point regarding the league and how they'll tend to covet athletes like Mingo...and for good reason. That's why I have Floyd as my top guy here. He's basically a carbon copy of Mingo.
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    Shaq Thompson is an ideal 4-3 Will. Not in the same league as David or Shazier in recent years, but will be a good-very good starter for a team for a while. Block shedding isn't an issue as a 4-3 WILL as you're already covered up, especially in an under front like Seattle's. I think ~ #45 range is right where he will/should be picked.
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    Depending upon whether Miami would prefer Tripp to develop into a WLB or MLB, I can see Thompson being on their radar. He definitely fits the modern WLB prototype - over-sized NB, who can blitz and is comfortable around the LOS. I can also see Hickey seeing some L. David to his game.
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    Shaq Thompson had like a 50+ yard touchdown as the halfback today. Id say its pretty evident he's just an overall athletic freak…very good fit for our D
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