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    Who cares what (insert media bigwig here) has to say??

    Time and time again I see threads blasting some NFL, ESPN, or SI talking head for his uniformed opinions on the fins. Sometimes, when they're really outrageous, they deserve to be responded to. But why do so many people here put so much stock in the views of big media commentators? Do you really think "Adam Schefter" or Prisco have an intricate understanding of the Dolphins players? Sure they knows the roster -- the players' names, their numbers if they're worth mentioning, and the team record. But it ends there. So the simple translation for them is: "No pro bowlers, 11 loses last year (don't know or care that all but two were close)" Conclusion: Mia sucks

    They don't know who's excelling at camp, who has the goods to be a star, if there's an underbelly that can turn the team around, etc..

    They're all the same these big media guys. They're journalists-by-highlight reel, because their understanding of who's who in the NFL is simply an extension of who's stats are big from the year before and what they see on PrimeTime after all the games are played Sunday evening.

    That's not to say they don't know anything about the game. Of course they're experts in a broad sense. But the really big guys, C. Burman, P. King, etc. have gotten so inflated that they simply don't have the time to see what's brewing beneath the surface. Sports media in general is very reactive. That's why, for example, while we knew McMike could be something special when he hurdled that CB straight into the endzone in preseason a couple years back -- these guys don't even know his name until he makes X number of highlights on ESPN. They simply have a view that's a mile wide and an inch thick on NFL talent.

    I hear Peter King on the Buffalo sports station every Tues. (hey, it's the only NFL talk I can hear in this anythingbuthockey-forsaken town) and he doesn't know sh--. Sure he has a rich concept of NFL history and rules, and trade rumours, hiring/firings, but ask him about a second-tier player's chances to make the team or his opinions on how Losman played the game before, and he couldn't tell you a thing beyond what any monkey can figure out by reading the box score. He goes on and tells Buffalo fans, through broad generalities what they delude themselves in believing anyway: that they're great, and losman looks good, and they could make the playoffs, and bla b la bla. He does the same in any market he goes on, as they all do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TorontoFin
    Time and time again I see threads blasting some NFL, ESPN, or SI talking head for his uniformed opinions on the fins. Sometimes, when they're really outrageous, they deserve to be responded to. But why do so many people here put so much stock in the views of big media commentators? Do you really think "Adam Schefter" or Prisco have an intricate understanding of the Dolphins players? Sure they knows the roster -- the players' names, their numbers if they're worth mentioning, and the team record. But it ends there. So the simple translation for them is: "No pro bowlers, 11 loses last year (don't know or care that all but two were close)" Conclusion: Mia sucks

    They don't know who's excelling at camp, who has the goods to be a star, if there's an underbelly that can turn the team around, etc..

    They're all the same these big media guys. They're journalists-by-highlight reel, because their understanding of who's who in the NFL is simply an extension of who's stats are big from the year before and what they see on PrimeTime after all the games are played Sunday evening.

    That's not to say they don't know anything about the game. Of course they're experts in a broad sense. But the really big guys, C. Burman, P. King, etc. have gotten so inflated that they simply don't have the time to see what's brewing beneath the surface. Sports media in general is very reactive. That's why, for example, while we knew McMike could be something special when he hurdled that CB straight into the endzone in preseason a couple years back -- these guys don't even know his name until he makes X number of highlights on ESPN. They simply have a view that's a mile wide and an inch thick on NFL talent.

    I hear Peter King on the Buffalo sports station every Tues. (hey, it's the only NFL talk I can hear in this anythingbuthockey-forsaken town) and he doesn't know sh--. Sure he has a rich concept of NFL history and rules, and trade rumours, hiring/firings, but ask him about a second-tier player's chances to make the team or his opinions on how Losman played the game before, and he couldn't tell you a thing beyond what any monkey can figure out by reading the box score. He goes on and tells Buffalo fans, through broad generalities what they delude themselves in believing anyway: that they're great, and losman looks good, and they could make the playoffs, and bla b la bla. He does the same in any market he goes on, as they all do.
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    I've never cared. I've made a few threads talking about this subject. I'm tired of people caring what certain folks have to say about Miami. All the predictions and "analysis". Nobody is in Miami every single day watching the team improve, at least not these "prediction" makers.

    These "bigwigs" sit in their New England studio or L.A. studio and run off at the mouth as if they matter. It's usually based on the previous years performance, or how Preseason is going.

    Just let the season get here already, and if we suck still, then we suck. That's just how it is. Life goes on



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    Quote Originally Posted by SpurzN703
    These "bigwigs" sit in their New England studio or L.A. studio and run off at the mouth as if they matter. It's usually based on the previous years performance, or how Preseason is going.
    exactly. Not to say alex marvex and the local crew are much better, in the grand scheme, but at least they can provide you with SOME sort of analysis beneath the surface. At the end of the day we can agree or disagree based on what we see. They usually, of course have a much narrower view of the NFL in general, so you can't win. Have your own faith, your own doubts, because in the end the result won't change
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    They are just fed info from other analysts. They don't look at teams and think about individual players. They just look at "Headline" players and last years results. Bottomline, they don't know what they are talking about.
    "The team that scores the most points usually wins." - Madden
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    My question is: How do you know that these guys aren't pouring over camp reports themselves?

    I mean, they have just as much or more access to teams as we do as fans... but they get paid to research it...

    Obviously not every guy is right on all the time, but to write them off as stupid is stupid on your part...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TorontoFin
    Time and time again I see threads blasting some NFL, ESPN, or SI talking head for his uniformed opinions on the fins. Sometimes, when they're really outrageous, they deserve to be responded to. But why do so many people here put so much stock in the views of big media commentators? Do you really think "Adam Schefter" or Prisco have an intricate understanding of the Dolphins players? Sure they knows the roster -- the players' names, their numbers if they're worth mentioning, and the team record. But it ends there. So the simple translation for them is: "No pro bowlers, 11 loses last year (don't know or care that all but two were close)" Conclusion: Mia sucks

    They don't know who's excelling at camp, who has the goods to be a star, if there's an underbelly that can turn the team around, etc..

    They're all the same these big media guys. They're journalists-by-highlight reel, because their understanding of who's who in the NFL is simply an extension of who's stats are big from the year before and what they see on PrimeTime after all the games are played Sunday evening.

    That's not to say they don't know anything about the game. Of course they're experts in a broad sense. But the really big guys, C. Burman, P. King, etc. have gotten so inflated that they simply don't have the time to see what's brewing beneath the surface. Sports media in general is very reactive. That's why, for example, while we knew McMike could be something special when he hurdled that CB straight into the endzone in preseason a couple years back -- these guys don't even know his name until he makes X number of highlights on ESPN. They simply have a view that's a mile wide and an inch thick on NFL talent.

    I hear Peter King on the Buffalo sports station every Tues. (hey, it's the only NFL talk I can hear in this anythingbuthockey-forsaken town) and he doesn't know sh--. Sure he has a rich concept of NFL history and rules, and trade rumours, hiring/firings, but ask him about a second-tier player's chances to make the team or his opinions on how Losman played the game before, and he couldn't tell you a thing beyond what any monkey can figure out by reading the box score. He goes on and tells Buffalo fans, through broad generalities what they delude themselves in believing anyway: that they're great, and losman looks good, and they could make the playoffs, and bla b la bla. He does the same in any market he goes on, as they all do.
    :beerbang:This has to be one of the best summarys I have read on this matter
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    Amen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TorontoFin
    Time and time again I see threads blasting some NFL, ESPN, or SI talking head for his uniformed opinions on the fins. Sometimes, when they're really outrageous, they deserve to be responded to. But why do so many people here put so much stock in the views of big media commentators? Do you really think "Adam Schefter" or Prisco have an intricate understanding of the Dolphins players? Sure they knows the roster -- the players' names, their numbers if they're worth mentioning, and the team record. But it ends there. So the simple translation for them is: "No pro bowlers, 11 loses last year (don't know or care that all but two were close)" Conclusion: Mia sucks

    They don't know who's excelling at camp, who has the goods to be a star, if there's an underbelly that can turn the team around, etc..

    They're all the same these big media guys. They're journalists-by-highlight reel, because their understanding of who's who in the NFL is simply an extension of who's stats are big from the year before and what they see on PrimeTime after all the games are played Sunday evening.

    That's not to say they don't know anything about the game. Of course they're experts in a broad sense. But the really big guys, C. Burman, P. King, etc. have gotten so inflated that they simply don't have the time to see what's brewing beneath the surface. Sports media in general is very reactive. That's why, for example, while we knew McMike could be something special when he hurdled that CB straight into the endzone in preseason a couple years back -- these guys don't even know his name until he makes X number of highlights on ESPN. They simply have a view that's a mile wide and an inch thick on NFL talent.

    I hear Peter King on the Buffalo sports station every Tues. (hey, it's the only NFL talk I can hear in this anythingbuthockey-forsaken town) and he doesn't know sh--. Sure he has a rich concept of NFL history and rules, and trade rumours, hiring/firings, but ask him about a second-tier player's chances to make the team or his opinions on how Losman played the game before, and he couldn't tell you a thing beyond what any monkey can figure out by reading the box score. He goes on and tells Buffalo fans, through broad generalities what they delude themselves in believing anyway: that they're great, and losman looks good, and they could make the playoffs, and bla b la bla. He does the same in any market he goes on, as they all do.
    I AGREE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT...THAT IS WHY I AM CAREFUL WHO'S OPINION I VALUE
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    Technically what does anyone know? All the people that say that ESPN's commentator don't know anything are the same people hurdling their grandmother's to see what Tom Jackson has to say about this weeks fins game. All of these people know what we know, they just sometimes find out about it before we do. The only difference is that when some "2nd tier" player is on the fringe of making the team they all don't get giddy like we do...CAUSE THEY AREN'T DOLFANS!!!
    Example...All last summer everyone was talking Bua. Bua has got a motor. Bua got a bad temperment. Bua all day. If it would not have been for one magical hit last year, all of us would have forgotten about Bua. And this year Bua might not make the team.
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