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His draft grade has him scoring in the range of an "average NFL starter" for his projection. The 36" arm length (base of shoulder to end of middle finger) is a plus. Of course the arm length can be similar to a hand size measurement-- it can be a positive, but it is far from a good/absolute projection for a player's success.
 
phinsforlife said:
I was hoping for immediate help and contributions from our first two picks, not insurance. I am underwhelmed by the mosaic of the first two picks. I agree with the term "insurance." They may be good players eventually, but they do not seem ready to contribute now in a meaningful fashion.
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I like when you say mosaic
 
dolfanattic5 said:
Don’t know him and obviously was shocked at first. This is a former NFL draft scout that had a 1st round grade on him though.

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An actual scout versus some podcasters.

Hmmmm. Tough call.
 
circumstances said:
An actual scout versus some podcasters.

Hmmmm. Tough call.
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Podcasters might be the least credible part of the media. I don't fault their willingness, but accuracy??? C'mon now, I would NEVER quote one of them as an authority.

Hell... the only podcaster type that i routinely tune in is my_doode and he doesn't do sports.
 
I saw an interaction earlier in the draft thread, in which someone posted about his pass pro and the one sack. He stated that Houston doesn't play anyone. Well, I just looked at the schedule, and they played Cincinnati, Baylor, Texas, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia and Texas Tech. That's not the toughest schedule, but it's not a bunch of bums.
 
Feverdream said:
Podcasters might be the least credible part of the media. I don't fault their willingness, but accuracy??? C'mon now, I would NEVER quote one of them as an authority.

Hell... the only podcaster type that i routinely tune in is my_doode and he doesn't do sports.
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You know I was mocking the folks quoting podcasters, of course...
 
phinsforlife said:
In retrospect, do you think the prospects available at wr and CB at pick 21 were better prospects than chop, leaving theoretical positional need out of the question?
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They were comparable. They just weren’t nearly the need. WTF would we have drafted a WR for?

Tell me that’s why you’re mad? Because you wanted a WR at 21?
 
PSU Cane said:
"In the 33 games and 1,283 pass plays since that game, Eichenberg didn't allow a single sack and only gave up four quarterback hits (according to Pro Football Focus)."

I meant the sack stats, like the reference above. He didn't give up a sack his last 2 seasons.
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Yeah I mean sacks aren’t a great stat to go off. Like on the opposite end where Chop didn’t have a ton of sacks, his pressure and impact was constant.

For example heres chop putting on major pressure forcing the qb to step up into a waiting DT’s arms. The tackle didn’t give up a sack in his stats but got completely blown up and defense still got a sack. This would be deemed as a negative play in pff’s rankings this a better indicator of overall play. Liam posted low 80’s grades his last two years, Paul ranked 1 and 2 in the 90’s for his grade. Not to mention Liam wasn’t a physical specimen like this dude.
 

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