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Tunsil Trade Revisited

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Ok this is ridiculous.

On August 31, 2019, Tunsil, Kenny Stills, and a fourth-round pick were traded to the Houston Texans in exchange for two first-round picks, a second-round pick, Johnson Bademosi, and Julien Davenport. He started 14 games at left tackle in 2019, earning his first trip to the Pro Bowl.

2019 Houston went 10-6, won the AFC South, beat Buffalo in the WC then blew a 24-0 lead losing 51-31 to the Chiefs.

2019 Miami went 5-11, earning the 5th overall pick in the draft as they start their rebuild.

2020 Draft Miami trades one of the 1sts (26th overall) they got from Houston to Green Bay (for 30th overall and a 4th rd pick) so the Packers could select Jordon Love. Miami uses pick from Green Bay (30th) for Noah Igbinoghene who is now on his 3rd team already. That 4th rd pick was traded to Houston to move up and take Solomon Kindley @ pick 111 Houston got picks 136 and 141.

2020 Texans begin their rebuild go 4-12. Tunsil makes pro bowl for 2nd consecutive season.

2020 Miami goes 10-6, misses playoffs

2021 draft...where things gets wonky, Miami trades the #3 overall pick (the 2nd FRP from houston in Tunsil trade) to San Francisco (49ers used pick for Trey Lance) for pick #12, a FRP in 2022 a 3rd in 2022 and a FRP in 2023. Miami then trades back up to #6 with Philadelphia giving up #12 and #123 and a FRP in 2022. Miami also got a 5th rd pick. Miami drafts Jaylen Waddle @6. Miami trades that 5th rd pick to Pittsburgh for a 2022 4th rd pick (Erik Ezukanma) Miami uses that Houston tunsil trade 2nd rd pick on Jevon Holland.


2021 Texans go 4-13.

2021 Dolphins go 9-8 miss playoffs

2022 draft Miami trades their FRP (#29) from Trey Lance 49er trade and a 4th rd pick to KC for Tyreek Hill. Miami uses 3rd rd pick from 49ers Trey Lance trade for Channing Tindall

2022 season Miami goes 9-8, loses to Buffalo in WC
2022 Texans go 3-13-1, Tunsil makes pro bowl for 3rd time.

2023 Draft miami forfeits the 2nd FRP from 49ers lance trade for tampering.

2023 season Miami goes 11-6 loses to KC in WC
2023 Texans go 10-7, win AFC South, beat Cleveland in WC before losing to Baltimore in Divisional Rd. Tunsil makes pro bowl for 4th time.

lol how is Houston how closer to a SB than Miami is? How did San Francisco not have a setback from missing on Lance (yeah I know they got lucky on Purdy). Something ain't right in the FO here. Houston gets rid of Bill O'brien, rebuild, draft Franchise QB, win division and a playoff game, become SB contenders all in the span of 5 years while Miami still spinning its wheels.

Miami basically got Noah Igbinoghene, Solomon Kindley, Jaylen Waddle, Erik Ezukanma, Jevon Holland, Tyreek Hill, and Channing Tindall from their Tunsil trade which overlaps with the Trey Lance trade. Not much to show for it. Miami pretty much got a 70 point game and good offense in September/October out of all this. Was it worth it?
 
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I have to agree, there is much room for improvement in our F.O. Houston will be on its third year of it's rebuild and Miami it's fifth. If you were to bet on which team will win two playoff games in year 2024-2025, most of us would put our money on Houston.

Grier needs to go. What has he produced? He has been a part of this franchise for twenty plus years and has been part of the problem. The only thing he has accomplished is to make Miami better than 50% of the other NFL teams. Good front offices recognize homegrown talent and figure out how to keep them. Yes, Wilkins became too expensive to sign this year but, Grier had an opportunity last year and played poker and lost.
 
Your coach can not call offensive plays plus injuries. If those things were fixed..we beat the Bills at the end of the year and more than likely host the AFC Championship here.
 
I have to agree, there is much room for improvement in our F.O. Houston will be on its third year of it's rebuild and Miami it's fifth. If you were to bet on which team will win two playoff games in year 2024-2025, most of us would put our money on Houston.

Grier needs to go. What has he produced? He has been a part of this franchise for twenty plus years and has been part of the problem. The only thing he has accomplished is to make Miami better than 50% of the other NFL teams. Good front offices recognize homegrown talent and figure out how to keep them. Yes, Wilkins became too expensive to sign this year but, Grier had an opportunity last year and played poker and lost.
Grier is good at getting the assets but awful at allocating those resources. Though I'm still not a fan of the trade down and then back up for Waddle. Miami can't afford to not long term extend Holland and Waddle or that Tunsil trade will be a complete failure.
 
There is so many moving parts of the Tunsil trade by now its impossible to determine what was right or wrong.

If we never win a playoff game with Tyreek Hill on the roster I know one thing. I'll look back on it as a another giant Dolphin turd of a failure.
 
I still blame Flores for that one. EVERYONE tampers, but at that time with the current political climate, the NFL had no choice but to punish us in some way. Just **** timing.
All because stupid Bill Belichick doesn’t know how to use his damn cell phone and congratulated the wrong Brian for the Giants job. Unbelieveable, here we were minding our own business and then that happens, next thing you know Flores is suing everyone for racism. Kind of ridiculous if you think about it.
 
All because stupid Bill Belichick doesn’t know how to use his damn cell phone and congratulated the wrong Brian for the Giants job. Unbelieveable, here we were minding our own business and then that happens, next thing you know Flores is suing everyone for racism. Kind of ridiculous if you think about it.
Like how hard is it to have:

Brian (White)
Brian (Black)

In your contacts?

Belicheat knew what he was doing. Bastard
 
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I have to agree, there is much room for improvement in our F.O. Houston will be on its third year of it's rebuild and Miami it's fifth. If you were to bet on which team will win two playoff games in year 2024-2025, most of us would put our money on Houston.

Grier needs to go. What has he produced? He has been a part of this franchise for twenty plus years and has been part of the problem. The only thing he has accomplished is to make Miami better than 50% of the other NFL teams. Good front offices recognize homegrown talent and figure out how to keep them. Yes, Wilkins became too expensive to sign this year but, Grier had an opportunity last year and played poker and lost.

"Presumption Alert"
 
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