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Tunsil Trade Revisited

Dolph N.Fan said:
Ok this is ridiculous.

On August 31, 2019, Tunsil, Kenny Stills, and a fourth-round pick were traded to the Houston Texans in exchange for two first-round picks, a second-round pick, Johnson Bademosi, and Julien Davenport. He started 14 games at left tackle in 2019, earning his first trip to the Pro Bowl.

2019 Houston went 10-6, won the AFC South, beat Buffalo in the WC then blew a 24-0 lead losing 51-31 to the Chiefs.

2019 Miami went 5-11, earning the 5th overall pick in the draft as they start their rebuild.

2020 Draft Miami trades one of the 1sts (26th overall) they got from Houston to Green Bay (for 30th overall and a 4th rd pick) so the Packers could select Jordon Love. Miami uses pick from Green Bay (30th) for Noah Igbinoghene who is now on his 3rd team already. That 4th rd pick was traded to Houston to move up and take Solomon Kindley @ pick 111 Houston got picks 136 and 141.

2020 Texans begin their rebuild go 4-12. Tunsil makes pro bowl for 2nd consecutive season.

2020 Miami goes 10-6, misses playoffs

2021 draft...where things gets wonky, Miami trades the #3 overall pick (the 2nd FRP from houston in Tunsil trade) to San Francisco (49ers used pick for Trey Lance) for pick #12, a FRP in 2022 a 3rd in 2022 and a FRP in 2023. Miami then trades back up to #6 with Philadelphia giving up #12 and #123 and a FRP in 2022. Miami also got a 5th rd pick. Miami drafts Jaylen Waddle @6. Miami trades that 5th rd pick to Pittsburgh for a 2022 4th rd pick (Erik Ezukanma) Miami uses that Houston tunsil trade 2nd rd pick on Jevon Holland.


2021 Texans go 4-13.

2021 Dolphins go 9-8 miss playoffs

2022 draft Miami trades their FRP (#29) from Trey Lance 49er trade and a 4th rd pick to KC for Tyreek Hill. Miami uses 3rd rd pick from 49ers Trey Lance trade for Channing Tindall

2022 season Miami goes 9-8, loses to Buffalo in WC
2022 Texans go 3-13-1, Tunsil makes pro bowl for 3rd time.

2023 Draft miami forfeits the 2nd FRP from 49ers lance trade for tampering.

2023 season Miami goes 11-6 loses to KC in WC
2023 Texans go 10-7, win AFC South, beat Cleveland in WC before losing to Baltimore in Divisional Rd. Tunsil makes pro bowl for 4th time.

lol how is Houston how closer to a SB than Miami is? How did San Francisco not have a setback from missing on Lance (yeah I know they got lucky on Purdy). Something ain't right in the FO here. Houston gets rid of Bill O'brien, rebuild, draft Franchise QB, win division and a playoff game, become SB contenders all in the span of 5 years while Miami still spinning its wheels.

Miami basically got Noah Igbinoghene, Solomon Kindley, Jaylen Waddle, Erik Ezukanma, Jevon Holland, Tyreek Hill, and Channing Tindall from their Tunsil trade which overlaps with the Trey Lance trade. Not much to show for it. Miami pretty much got a 70 point game and good offense in September/October out of all this. Was it worth it?
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Why would you make the statement that Houston is closer to a Super Bowl than Miami? I believe Miami is much more talented than Houston and closer to a Super Bowl. Houston plays in the worst division in the league and had a last place schedule. Stroud looked good but let’s pump the breaks on Houston for now. They are in no way a serious contender while the dolphins are a top 2 team in the afc.
 
The tunsil trade is the greatest trade in recent nfl history. We were one of the two best teams in the league the last two years until injuries started to pile up. It’s not an excuse because it’s a fact. Chiefs and 49ers were basically fully healthy. We are legit Super Bowl contenders right now and we have been the last two years. Just because we didn’t win it all doesn’t change that. Gtfoh with Houston lmao
 
Highzenga said:
Why would you make the statement that Houston is closer to a Super Bowl than Miami? I believe Miami is much more talented than Houston and closer to a Super Bowl. Houston plays in the worst division in the league and had a last place schedule. Stroud looked good but let’s pump the breaks on Houston for now. They are in no way a serious contender while the dolphins are a top 2 team in the afc.
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Chiefs, Ravens, Bills. top 2 teams win their division. Might want to beat teams with winning records before claiming a top spot.
 
Highzenga said:
The tunsil trade is the greatest trade in recent nfl history. We were one of the two best teams in the league the last two years until injuries started to pile up. It’s not an excuse because it’s a fact. Chiefs and 49ers were basically fully healthy. We are legit Super Bowl contenders right now and we have been the last two years. Just because we didn’t win it all doesn’t change that. Gtfoh with Houston lmao
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Teams that are legitimate Super Bowl contenders win playoff games and beat good teams.

What in the hell are you talking about? The Dolphins have done neither one of those things.

It’s one thing in being hopeful, and something else entirely when straying from facts and reality.
 
Laser13 said:
Teams that are legitimate Super Bowl contenders win playoff games and beat good teams.

What in the hell are you talking about? The Dolphins have done neither one of those things.

It’s one thing in being hopeful, and something else entirely when straying from facts and reality.
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We beat plenty of good teams the past two years. Did you actually believe we could win in kc in -30 degree weather? As a franchise, we’ve never won those types of games.

We have a team that can win the Super Bowl next year and could’ve won it last year too. But we have to be relatively healthy and a top 2 playoff seed.

We now have playoff experience and it should be an easy division next year
 
Highzenga said:
We beat plenty of good teams the past two years. Did you actually believe we could win in kc in -30 degree weather? As a franchise, we’ve never won those types of games.

We have a team that can win the Super Bowl next year and could’ve won it last year too. But we have to be relatively healthy and a top 2 playoff seed.

We now have playoff experience and it should be an easy division next year
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Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Unfortunately, the usage of this phrase and terminology has been used in abundance with the Dolphins for the last 20 years.

I like the enthusiasm and optimism, but it helps to be grounded when disappointment rears its head (again and again, again, again, and again).

I don’t believe it will be an easy division this year, as it’s never been “easy” for the Dolphins - at least in terms of the last two decades.
 
Obviously history suggests that you have a much better chance of winning playoff games when you play at home. We were in the drivers seat for the 1 seed the past two years until we lost some games late in the year. Why did we start losing games and not looking like the same team? Is it because we suck? Is it because teams figured us out the last two winters? No! It’s because in…

2022: Tua suffered his 2nd concussion on Christmas Day and was out the rest of the year. We played our playoff game starting our 3rd string rookie qb.

2023:
Hill-was hurt and shouldn’t have been playing
Waddle- was basically injured the entire season
Armstead- was basically injured the entire year
Connor- out for the year
Wynn-out for the year
Hunt- injured entire 2nd half of year
Mostert-hurt and shouldn’t have playing
Achane-missed a lot of year
Phillips-out for the year
Chubb-out for the year
VG-out for the year
Howard-was basically hurt all year
Ramsey-missed first half of year
Holland-injured entire 2nd half of year
Elliott-injured entire 2nd half of year

My point is that we’ve had some bad luck. It doesn’t mean we suck
 
Laser13 said:
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Unfortunately, the usage of this phrase and terminology has been used in abundance with the Dolphins for the last 20 years.

I like the enthusiasm and optimism, but it helps to be grounded when disappointment rears its head (again and again, again, again, and again).

I don’t believe it will be an easy division this year, as it’s never been “easy” for the Dolphins - at least in terms of the last two decades.
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I understand you’ve suffered through the years just as I have. This is the most talented dolphin team since the early 70’s. We do have a shot at this.
 
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